On Friday, March 4, 2016 at 9:57:54 AM UTC-8, Eric Christoffersen wrote:
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> Problem with my brewtus 2.
>
> On Wednesday I see that machine indicates 198f. It never reaches 203f. 
> On thursday the machine won't go above 196. Today it is stuck between 193 
> and 194.
>
> The dot on the pid is mostly lit except when steam boiler comes on, 
> indicating there should be voltage going to the brew element. When steam 
> heat light goes out the brew heat dot comes back. I think that means that 
> pid and temp probes are good, the steam element is good (otherwise the 
> steam heat light would just stay on.)
>
> Something in the machine is slowly fading. Has anyone seen a heater 
> element fail this way? Is that how they fail? I had a steam heat element go 
> out once but by the time I noticed it was more than mostly dead.
>
> I'll open the box up tonight to test voltage at the heater elements, 
> continuity at the overtemp cutoff. Anything specific I should look for? 
> Anyone have this problem before and know the fix?
>
> Anyone have a part number for a 110v brew heater element for brewtus 2? I 
> kinda want my coffee to keep working sooner rather than later.
>
>
>
I had the same problem recently, and tech support at WLL thought it might 
be a failing PID because the element was not entirely out, but the machine 
would still get hot -- although not hot enough by a few degrees.  I ruled 
that out with a little testing, including a nasty jolt when I touched the 
brew boiler and ground and popped the GFCI.  Resistance was about 800 Ohms 
across the element, and I was getting 20 ohms from one element lead to the 
boiler wall -- and 120v from the boiler wall to ground.  So, the element 
was in the process of failing and was shorting. I bought a new element 
(with a daily discount, which was nice), bought a 37mm socket for my air 
impact wrench.  My 1 1/2" socket was sloppy, and a 1 7/16" heater element 
socket I used for sizing didn't fit -- but it was a cheap stamped socket 
and not a precision tool by any means.  WLL recommended a 1 7/16" socket, 
so I suppose a good one would work.  37mm is right on the button, and I got 
one pretty cheap off Amazon.

The recommended removal process is to use a standard socket wrench while 
holding the boiler with a oil filter wrench, but with all the gunk used to 
seal the element, I didn't think that would do the trick, and a WLL tech 
said that an impact wrench was best -- as others on this NG have written. 
 Worked like a charm, and he element was split.  I used the oil filter 
wrench and socket for reassembly with some Teflon thread paste, which I 
like better than tape.  The machine is up and running and working 
beautifully.  My only screw up was that after I popped in the element and 
turned on the machine, the steam boiler automatically filled -- and I 
forgot that I had to fill the brew boiler and about cooked my new element. 
But I was watching it heat up and realized my mistake before the element 
got too hot. Its funny that I should forget since this all started with me 
trying to fix the problem with descaling, which involves a lot of brew 
boiler filling.

As for scale, the inside walls of the brew boiler and my split heater 
element were clean, but there was about an ounce of white, non-adherent 
material just sitting in the boiler.  I suppose it was calcium carbonate, 
but it flushed right out. 

-- Jay Beattie. 

 

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