The Brewtus Crew is awesome, thanks all. Good to hear this as well. I’m currently using a GCP so this would be a big upgrade. Maybe a huge time suck as well..
Is 35min accurate for heat up time? Any thoughts on plumbing vs dropping the tube into a big ol jug of good H2O. Plumbing would entail splitting my the icemachine line and figuring out an inline filter and some holes in counters, walls, etc. > On May 1, 2023, at 2:09 PM, Jason Scott <[email protected]> wrote: > > They're no longer made, but the parts are all pretty universal (heating > elements, steam/water controls, pstat, etc.) I think I'd be right there with > you on the price. I would LIKELY pass on a leaking machine at $950, but would > likely jump on it at $600-$700. The plumbed rotary IV version is quite a nice > machine. My biggest gripe (which is a common one) is the lack of steam power, > but there are ways to improve that with different tips/wands. I chose a > higher-wattage steam element, and if the elements are due for replacement > anyway, this is an option (but not a trivial option, as it does involve > replacing wiring that's not intended for higher current). > > On Monday, May 1, 2023 at 2:51:19 PM UTC-5 peter riess wrote: >> Thanks for that beta! Good info to take into consideration. The ask is $950 >> but, assuming the worst, I wouldn’t want to pay much more than $600-700. >> >> She also has some back up bits and parts, prepared for the end of the line >> for the brand. I gather these are no longer made and parts are harder to >> find than for an old Quick Mill, for example?? >> >> >>> On May 1, 2023, at 1:32 PM, 'Ben McCafferty' via Brewtus >>> <[email protected] <>> wrote: >>> >> >>> Hey there Peter, >>> I think you have some unknowns here, and the bottom line is: what discount >>> are you getting, how willing are you to replace/repair parts, and as >>> Pitcher said how handy are you? >>> >>> I owned a B2 from new for 12 years or so (still have it, no longer in >>> service), and now have an ECM (another E61 machine, very similar). At 8 >>> years, you are definitely into the phase where you will be replacing things >>> and I feel that’s to be expected. As to the lack of descaling, that may or >>> may not be an issue—where I live, I rarely descaled my brewtus and didn’t >>> have any buildup to mention. Definitely not the case in all areas. As an >>> aside, I’ve been using the BWT system (WLL carries it) for maybe 6 years >>> now and it is money well spent. No more descaling is their claim, it’s been >>> true for me (I live in a different area now than I did with the B2 that >>> didn’t scale, harder water here). >>> >>> If it were me, I’d consider the following parts likely to need replacing >>> relatively soon: >>> —both boiler elements >>> —overheat sensors on top of both boilers >>> —pressurestat >>> —vibe pump if it’s a vibe machine and possibly solenoid/plunger >>> —miscellaneous copper and silicon tubing, esp the copper tubing to the hot >>> water boiler which is prone to clogging shut >>> —seals for the E61 group >>> —vacuum breaker for the steam boiler (this can be repaired with a simple >>> o-ring, instead of buying the whole part from a vendor—I have a bag of 100 >>> high temp/food grade and happy to send you one or more). >>> —E61 portafilter gasket and screen >>> >>> Less likely but possible: >>> —PID >>> —Giemme control box >>> —over pressure relief valve on the steam boiler >>> —seals for the wands >>> >>> So if you add those up, and they are less than the discount you’re getting >>> on the machine vs. new (and you like to work on machines), I’d say go for >>> it! In any case, you will know the machine well, and since you’ll be doing >>> future maintenance on any machine, it’s good knowledge to have. Meanwhile, >>> I’d just get the machine and use it, fix the leak, and then be pleasantly >>> surprised (and money ahead) for the time that you don’t need to do the >>> things I mentioned above. ;) >>> >>> As to Pitcher’s comment about his machine leaking since new, that is not >>> normal in my experience. I can’t recall a leak in mine ever, unless a line >>> blew or something like that. You should be able to chase that down and fix >>> it, I hope you can too Pitcher! Water under the machine is one of those >>> things that drains my energy fast—just annoys the crap out of me I guess! >>> >>> One tip/suggestion—Expobar uses a liquid sealant on threads. It works >>> great, but it sets up FAST. You have to be really quick to get things >>> aligned, etc., especially on the pump assembly. I have always used yellow >>> teflon tape instead (you could add teflon paste over the tape if you wish) >>> and have never had a leak that I can recall. Just might save you a little >>> headache/heartburn. >>> >>> Best and good luck with the decision and/or new machine! >>> >>> b >>> >>>> On May 1, 2023, at 12:08, peter riess <[email protected] <>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Thanks for the reply. From her description the dripping is coming from a >>>> spot under one of the boilers. I assume it was build for the states. My >>>> biggest concern I guess is the maintenance over the last 8 yrs... >>>> >>>>> On May 1, 2023, at 12:58 PM, Pitcher Pitcher <[email protected] <>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I do not think the dripping is a sign of something major. Mine is 15 >>>>> years old and it drips since I have owned it. I would have to see where >>>>> it is dripping from to give you a better idea. There are some things to >>>>> consider if you are going to purchase. How handy are you? Some things I >>>>> would recommend doing to your machine to make it more hardy. Is the >>>>> machine for the States or Overseas? The machine was built for 220 v 10 >>>>> amps. The States where I live are 120 v 20 amps. The extra amps over time >>>>> has caused some problems. >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 10:46 AM peter riess <[email protected] <>> wrote: >>>>>> Seller claims she bought it new from WLL. Works well bur apparently it >>>>>> drips a small amount of discolored water as it warms up. Collects on >>>>>> counter under machine. She's never descaled it for the 8+/- yrs she's >>>>>> owned it. I am not sure about her water quality but she has it on a >>>>>> filter. >>>>>> >>>>>> Does the dripping raise a hairy red flag?? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for any feedback! >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "Brewtus" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to [email protected] <>. >>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/brewtus/42ebc17c-56b2-4ddd-893e-107e0b924ffbn%40googlegroups.com >>>>>> >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/brewtus/42ebc17c-56b2-4ddd-893e-107e0b924ffbn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> "Pitcher" >>>>> Stephen Pitcher >>>>> [email protected] <> >>>>> 225-408-9041 <tel:(225)%20408-9041> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "Brewtus" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to [email protected] <>. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/brewtus/CACn%2BS8Fx2sED_Qdsyb0m%3D4z9aogMewzBDjKf_e9vz3eEGULamQ%40mail.gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/brewtus/CACn%2BS8Fx2sED_Qdsyb0m%3D4z9aogMewzBDjKf_e9vz3eEGULamQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "Brewtus" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to [email protected] <>. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/brewtus/3508BEAD-4CA1-4958-A4B5-BFACB47BFF7C%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/brewtus/3508BEAD-4CA1-4958-A4B5-BFACB47BFF7C%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. >>> >>> >>> -- >> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>> Google Groups "Brewtus" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/brewtus/AdQF0ugls1E/unsubscribe. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>> [email protected] <>. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/brewtus/EBEAEE7C-6F5D-4F15-A2C3-93AE97345AAA%40me.com >>> >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/brewtus/EBEAEE7C-6F5D-4F15-A2C3-93AE97345AAA%40me.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Brewtus" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/brewtus/5fbe977b-dd4e-4909-ad28-64e1f836af7cn%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/brewtus/5fbe977b-dd4e-4909-ad28-64e1f836af7cn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Brewtus" group. 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