Hmmm, others will have to chime in on whether or not you can just stick a hose into a water vessel. I tend to think that the rotary pump needs a minimum water pressure to function, but I could be wrong there. 35 minutes is more than enough time to heat up.
On Monday, May 1, 2023 at 3:19:34 PM UTC-5 peter riess wrote: > The Brewtus Crew is awesome, thanks all. Good to hear this as well. I’m > currently using a GCP so this would be a big upgrade. Maybe a huge time > suck as well.. > > Is 35min accurate for heat up time? > > Any thoughts on plumbing vs dropping the tube into a big ol jug of good > H2O. Plumbing would entail splitting my the icemachine line and figuring > out an inline filter and some holes in counters, walls, etc. > > On May 1, 2023, at 2:09 PM, Jason Scott <[email protected]> wrote: > > They're no longer made, but the parts are all pretty universal (heating > elements, steam/water controls, pstat, etc.) I think I'd be right there > with you on the price. I would LIKELY pass on a leaking machine at $950, > but would likely jump on it at $600-$700. The plumbed rotary IV version is > quite a nice machine. My biggest gripe (which is a common one) is the lack > of steam power, but there are ways to improve that with different > tips/wands. I chose a higher-wattage steam element, and if the elements are > due for replacement anyway, this is an option (but not a trivial option, as > it does involve replacing wiring that's not intended for higher current). > > On Monday, May 1, 2023 at 2:51:19 PM UTC-5 peter riess wrote: > >> Thanks for that beta! Good info to take into consideration. The ask is >> $950 but, assuming the worst, I wouldn’t want to pay much more than >> $600-700. >> >> She also has some back up bits and parts, prepared for the end of the >> line for the brand. I gather these are no longer made and parts are harder >> to find than for an old Quick Mill, for example?? >> >> On May 1, 2023, at 1:32 PM, 'Ben McCafferty' via Brewtus < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hey there Peter, >> I think you have some unknowns here, and the bottom line is: what >> discount are you getting, how willing are you to replace/repair parts, and >> as Pitcher said how handy are you? >> >> I owned a B2 from new for 12 years or so (still have it, no longer in >> service), and now have an ECM (another E61 machine, very similar). At 8 >> years, you are definitely into the phase where you will be replacing things >> and I feel that’s to be expected. As to the lack of descaling, that may or >> may not be an issue—where I live, I rarely descaled my brewtus and didn’t >> have any buildup to mention. Definitely not the case in all areas. As an >> aside, I’ve been using the BWT system (WLL carries it) for maybe 6 years >> now and it is money well spent. No more descaling is their claim, it’s been >> true for me (I live in a different area now than I did with the B2 that >> didn’t scale, harder water here). >> >> If it were me, I’d consider the following parts likely to need replacing >> relatively soon: >> —both boiler elements >> —overheat sensors on top of both boilers >> —pressurestat >> —vibe pump if it’s a vibe machine and possibly solenoid/plunger >> —miscellaneous copper and silicon tubing, esp the copper tubing to the >> hot water boiler which is prone to clogging shut >> —seals for the E61 group >> —vacuum breaker for the steam boiler (this can be repaired with a simple >> o-ring, instead of buying the whole part from a vendor—I have a bag of 100 >> high temp/food grade and happy to send you one or more). >> —E61 portafilter gasket and screen >> >> Less likely but possible: >> —PID >> —Giemme control box >> —over pressure relief valve on the steam boiler >> —seals for the wands >> >> So if you add those up, and they are less than the discount you’re >> getting on the machine vs. new (and you like to work on machines), I’d say >> go for it! In any case, you will know the machine well, and since you’ll be >> doing future maintenance on any machine, it’s good knowledge to have. >> Meanwhile, I’d just get the machine and use it, fix the leak, and then be >> pleasantly surprised (and money ahead) for the time that you don’t need to >> do the things I mentioned above. ;) >> >> As to Pitcher’s comment about his machine leaking since new, that is not >> normal in my experience. I can’t recall a leak in mine ever, unless a line >> blew or something like that. You should be able to chase that down and fix >> it, I hope you can too Pitcher! Water under the machine is one of those >> things that drains my energy fast—just annoys the crap out of me I guess! >> >> One tip/suggestion—Expobar uses a liquid sealant on threads. It works >> great, but it sets up FAST. You have to be really quick to get things >> aligned, etc., especially on the pump assembly. I have always used yellow >> teflon tape instead (you could add teflon paste over the tape if you wish) >> and have never had a leak that I can recall. Just might save you a little >> headache/heartburn. >> >> Best and good luck with the decision and/or new machine! >> >> b >> >> On May 1, 2023, at 12:08, peter riess <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Thanks for the reply. From her description the dripping is coming from a >> spot under one of the boilers. I assume it was build for the states. My >> biggest concern I guess is the maintenance over the last 8 yrs... >> >> On May 1, 2023, at 12:58 PM, Pitcher Pitcher <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I do not think the dripping is a sign of something major. Mine is 15 >> years old and it drips since I have owned it. I would have to see where it >> is dripping from to give you a better idea. There are some things to >> consider if you are going to purchase. How handy are you? Some things I >> would recommend doing to your machine to make it more hardy. Is the machine >> for the States or Overseas? The machine was built for 220 v 10 amps. The >> States where I live are 120 v 20 amps. The extra amps over time has caused >> some problems. >> >> On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 10:46 AM peter riess <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Seller claims she bought it new from WLL. Works well bur apparently it >>> drips a small amount of discolored water as it warms up. Collects on >>> counter under machine. She's never descaled it for the 8+/- yrs she's owned >>> it. 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