--- Doug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Dean Forster wrote:
>
>
> > I'd argue that conservatism is more compassionate
> than
> > idealism at their respective roots. what's always
> > given me a lean to the right is the importance
> > conservatism places on truth, while idealism by
> > definition focuses on what could be. Adhering
> more
> > closely to the truth IMO is just *better* all
> around,
> > with few exceptions.
>
>
>
> I'm not sure I understand you, are you saying that
> there are no conservative ideals?
>
sorry, i was unclear. I was meaning right vs left,
conservatism vs idealism. of course conservatives
have ideals, just as idealists will forego their grand
plans sometimes in favor of the current reality.
takes both to make the world go 'round.
>
> I would have to disagree that conservatives have a
> stronger
> grip on reality than liberals do. I would tend to
>
> classify a pragmatist as someone tending towards the
> center
> of the political spectrum, if that's what you mean.
>
>
I consider myself more or less moderate, just with
more right leanings than left. extremists of any
stripe are much more separated from reality imo. My
point was that conservatism means dealing with reality
directly, while idealism requires developing your own
'future truth' as a goal and proceeding from there.
dean
probably still not making sense cuz he's loopy from
fatigue poisons
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