At 09:19 12-9-01 -0400, Gautam Mukunda wrote:

>How do I say this?  No.  Our _responsibility_ is to find everyone who did
>this - and kill them.  This was not our fault, and I reject entirely the
>efforts of those who attribute to us some sort of responsibility for what
>happened.

This is putting it too simple, Gautam. The involvement of the US in the 
Middle East is not appreciated by a great many people (and most countries) 
in that region. No matter how righteous you may think the US's involvement 
is, it is a fact that many people do not want it. You can not expect to 
mess around with people's lives and not get some angry response. Nobody 
here is saying "only blame America", but it is not reasonable to only blame 
others either.


>It is now at least probably that Osama Bin Laden did this.  His
>objection to us is that we support Israel.  That we are alone in that is to
>our credit and the rest of the world's shame.

Of course, given that the US is the *only* country that supports Israel, it 
might me wise to think about why all other nations do *not* support Israel. 
And given Israel's behaviour, I would say that supporting Israel is to 
America's shame.


Jeroen

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