At 09:42 12-9-01 -0400, Gautam Mukunda wrote:

>The only way we could have prevented this is to
>abandon Israel - and thus condemn it to destruction.  I refuse to be
>complicit in the completion of what Hitler started.

Minor detail: Hitler could not possibly have wanted the destruction of the 
State of Israel -- for the simple reason that the State of Israel was only 
founded *after* WW2.

But I know what you mean...


>There is nothing particularly special about dying from a nuclear bomb.

I would not know. I have not yet been killed by a nuclear bomb...

If and when that happens, I will try to contact you from The Great Beyond 
and tell you if it was a "special" way of dying...


>Either it is okay to use nuclear weapons to retaliate in this situation -
>or it is never okay, and deterrence is nonsense, and the _only_ thing that
>can defend us from other country's ICBMs is NMD, since it is "insane" in
>Jeroen's words, to use our nuclear weapons to defend or avenge American
>citizens.  Pick one.

You are getting posts mixed up, Gautam. I only used the word "insane" in my 
post about the IRA. If you want to quote me, at least have the courtesy to 
do it properly.


Jeroen

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