Yay!  (Ok, now admonishment for a one-line response!)

On Sat, 2 Feb 2002, Brett Coster wrote:

> > From: "J. van Baardwijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >
> > > Did I ever mention the existence of a table that contains the names of
> > list
> > > members and the number of times they were insulting? You just upped 1
> > point.
> > >
> > Dan M.
> > How many points does it take to get kicked off by you or Eileen?
> >
>
> Dammit all It Was A Joke.
>
> Rotten timing for it, but it was a joke.
>
> This whole thing is getting ridiculous.
>
> I personally don't care if anyone on this list tells me to pull my head in.
> Maybe I'd prefer it in private, maybe I deserve it in public. I know I've on
> occasion sent a "Pull yer head in, mate" message. It's all part of
> communicating. We're supposed to be civilised here, remember?
>
> Now, I think the listowners have some rights - the same as we all do. Yes
> they have the power to bounce any one of us, but for chrissake, apart from
> our late unlamented friend Kyle when have they done so? Right, never.
>
> Was telling JDG to pull his head in after implying Jeroen was taking the
> Nazi track wrong? No.  John, you are an experienced debater so don't say you
> didn't know exactly what implications your phrasing would carry. Your pained
> "Governance" missive backs that up also.
>
> Was Jeroen getting too pedantic about what he'd said and how he'd said it?
> Yes. Whenever you pull the "see my earlier posting" stunt for an answer I
> just wanna scream.
>
> Both of you, just think occasionally about how childish your "you said/ did
> not/ answer this loaded question" little games get. And then just put
> whatever message you were next going to send straight into the trashbin.
> Maybe take a little walk. Maybe think up a new topic.
>
> I think a big part of the problem here is that some people see that Jeroen's
> role as a listowner and also a consistent and persistent poster is a problem
> of unwarranted control. Personally, I think Jeroen merely suffers from
> enthusiasm and volunteerphilia: the readiness to put his hand up, as a
> listowner, to help maintain a list that is an important part of his life.
> There's an answer to that problem: somebody can now volunteer to take
> Jeroen's place as a listowner. Bit of the old "he who is without sin..."
>
> Personally, I thought Eileen's response and reasoning was absolutely fine. I
> don't see anywhere that some regime of censorship is being brought down on
> this list. In the main, I think we're still a group of grownups who get a
> bit contrary from day to day. Strange thing that, when you consider that the
> Brin hisself is the archetypal contrarian. Maybe it's something we have in
> common? Whaddayaknow!
>
> So, by all means discuss the meaning of the list. Get passionate. But for
> heaven's sake remember we're only one little micro in a whole big cosm and
> we are all members of a civilisation.
>
> Brett
>

Marvin Long
Austin, Texas

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