On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 01:25:49PM -0000, Andrew Crystall wrote:
> > Excuse me? Where has it been established scientifically that he hasn't
> > used proper scientific methodology? And where has it been established
> > scientifically that his points, carefully elaborated and in print for
> > all to see, with references, are invalid?
> 
> Excuse me? Try maybe like...reading the link which started this 
> thread.

I did, in fact, I read about the Danish Committee's claims a week ago
in a couple places. So far, it is hearsay. I have read nothing from
Lomborg's opponents but hearsay and smear tactics. Lomborg writes a 350
page book with numbers, point by point rational arguments, and many
references. He is attacked with hearsay. If Lomborg's methodology and
conclusions are so bad, it should be a simple matter to take it point by
point, in a rational manner, and refute it. Please cite where I can read
such a refutation. Until then, your comments are just more hearsay.

> > Prove it. If I were to stoop to your level, I might claim that your
> > evaluation doesn't use all available data and your interpretation of
> > the article and book is shaky.
> 
> Excuse me? Try maybe like...reading the link which started this 
> thread.

Do you really consider that proof? If so, I can prove to you that you
can become a millionaire in 30 days if you first send me a thousand
quid.

> Please read the multitude of online articles...

Please cite even ONE case where Lomborg claims he is an "environmental
scientist".

> You are, quite frankly, trolling.

That is my standard response to passive-aggressive comments like
yours. But let's try something else that could be more productive, if
you are up to it.

The copy I read of _Skeptical Environmentalist_ was borrowed from the
library some time ago, so I propose that I get another copy of the book
this weekend, either from the library or the book store, and I will
re-read it and make a note of what I consider to be Lomborg's main
points. I will summarize the main points here (including Lomborg's
references, if applicable).

Then we can debate the main points, one at a time. Naturally, I will
take Lomborg's side, and you will take the other side. It should be
a rational, scientific debate, with references whenever possible. I
imagine it will take a few months, since I will probably need a week
for each reply, and I imagine you would need the same. We would both be
free to receive assistance in the research from others (on or off list),
since it would be a big job for one person.

Maybe someone would volunteer to referee the debate?

What do you say, Andy, can you handle a scientific debate on the issue?


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