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From: "d.brin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 3:43 PM
Subject: Re: Brin Calls for an Attack on Riyadh Re: Brin: David Frum on the
War Plans


> 1.  I was being sardonic about attacking Riyadh.  Just recognizing
> their enmity would enable us to demand that they choose between their
> mansions and jihad.  Right now, we allow them to have both. WHat a
> deal.  I wish my daddy owned a thousand oil wells and Dick Cheney.
>
>
> 2. Our forces were 24 hours from liberating Basra in 1991.  With that
> city and the rest of southern Iraq safe, and the kurdish north safe,
> Saddam would have had no oil and no victims.  We could have then
> sifted through our 200,000 prisoners for enough to make several eager
> divisions of the Army of New Iraq and sent THEM to Baghdad.  Or let
> Saddam stew till someone shot him.  With no oil, and steadily
> strengthening Shiite and Kurdish republics hemming him in, his days
> would be numbered.
>
> It was a no-brainer.  And hell yes I would have voted against Colin
> Powell after that.  Any time any place anywhen anyhow.
>
> The record shows that it was frantic messages from Ankara and Riyadh
> that made Bush Sr. call a halt.  They hated the idea of free
> Kurdistan and free shiite arabs.  Each of them have huge minorities
> of those groups nearby.  And you will never, ever see a Bush make a
> decision that harms the interests of a Saudi prince.
>
> Again, these are the turkeys who made this situation. They dishonored
> us when we betrayed the shiites (see the movie Three Kings).  They
> are now waging this war in the dumbest possible way, though I pray
> the competence of our troops will prevail.
>
> I didn't say any of that.  When W crosses the Rubicon, I supported
> him all along.
>

So who do they hate more, the U.S. or rival tribes?

George A



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