--- "John D. Giorgis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

<lots of snippage before this post>
> >> The difference  between now and WWII is that such
> >> people would not be
> >> allowed to commit similar errors 12 years later,
> >> like......  attacking in
> >> 180 degrees the wrong direction.  

[I wrote:]
> >When I see something in quotes, I expect it to be
> >*exactly* what the person said/wrote; if words are
> >left out, I expect to see '<snip>' or '...' (as you
> >did above: <<...similar errors 12 years later,
> >> like......  attacking in
> >> 180 degrees the wrong direction>> )
<snippage> 
> 
> 
> Huh?
> 
> The only words I dropped were in a non-essential
> dependent clause, and I
> clearly indicated the snippage through the use of
> the ellipse.  My
> understanding is that use of the "ellipse" (i.e. the
> "...") I made above is
> kosher enough to be used in the NY Times Style
> Handbook.   
> 
> I must honestly say that I have no idea what you are
> complaining about.

Very well.
On Wed Apr 2 23:55:48 PST 2003, you wrote:

>>Out of curiosity, how do you reconcile this previous
fear of yours with your suggestion that we should, "be
attacking Riyadh?"<<

In my post of Wed Apr 2 22:35:51 PST 2003, same
thread: >>Brin Calls for an Attack on Riyadh Re: Brin:
David Frum on the War Plans<< :

[you said]
>> Dr Brin, you have previously indicated to this List
> that you consider a
> major risk from this war the possibility of
> inflaming ordinary Mulsims and
> Arabs against us.   Out of curiosity, how do you
> reconcile this previous
> fear of yours with your suggestion that we should,
> "be attacking Riyadh?"
[I replied]
*Technical point*  Your quote was NOT what he said! <<


The phrase "be attacking Riyadh?" was *not* a quote
from Himself as those exact words *were not* written,
at least on-list.

Hence my "technical point" that an extrapolation,
assumption, or condensation of another's words should
not be *quoted,* but should be otherwise marked; I
gave as a _correct_ example the way you wrote the
first sentence in this post.  

Had you written something like: 
>>By "attacking in 180 degrees the wrong direction,"
do you suggest that we should *be attacking Riyadh?*<<
that would have correctly quoted DB and also conveyed
your interpretation of his position.

But [as I said previously]
> >Combining words without showing that there was a
> >discontinuity is like combining 2 pictures without
> >stating "Edited for composition" or something to
> that effect.

I really don't believe that you are so obtuse...
 **TAG!**  ;)

Debbi
who notes that I apparently replied to JDG's post
before it was sent!  What's up with the weird time stamps?

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