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From: "Gautam Mukunda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 8:54 AM
Subject: Re: McNabb and Limbaugh Re: Raceism


> --- Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Did Rush go to college?  My impression is that he
> > didn't, or at least he
> > never came out with a degree....
> >
> > Julia
>
> I have no idea, actually.  What I meant was that every
> conservative who even wants to think about racial
> issues outside of PC orthodoxies has to accept that
> this is the deal - the very first tactic that will be
> used by those who disagree with him is to call him a
> racist.  That's part of the deal.  There doesn't have
> to be any evidence or anything at all.  If you want to
> say anything about race beyond talking about the
> pervasive racism of American society and how that's
> the only explanation for every problem afflicting
> African-Americans, you will get called a racist.
> Every conservative knows it.  I think most leftists do
> to, to be honest, but it's too useful a tactic of
> intimidation to admit that.

In some cases, it happens exactly as you state it.  I'm sure, especially at
liberal universities, well thought out balanced conservative ideas are
shouted down as racist when they are not.  If you followed my discussion of
my Zambian daughter being told she isn't black enough because she works too
hard, you will note that I accept and acknowledge that there are problems
that extend beyond the simple effects of prejudice.

Having said that, though, I feel that this does not well apply to the
criticisms of Rush.  I've been mulling over my response to this, and find
the need to keep on expanding it in my head.  What I write will have to be
a subset of this.

First of all, I'm 99% sure we agree that slavery was the original sin of
the US, and that the obvious manifestations of blacks being second class
citizens in the US extended into the '60s.  That is not just a matter of
ancient history (heck I can close my eyes and see the TWTWTW song being
sung when the Civil Rights legislation was signed).  It is the necessary
backdrop for any discussions because there are strong links between these
facts and  present attitudes, policies strategies, etc.

The analogy I used when I discussed Neli (my Zambian daughter) and her
accusers was people dealing with an adult who has been abused as a child.
Adam rightly pointed out that white Americans can't see themselves in the
position of the therapist.  That wasn't the position I was actually
thinking of; I was more thinking about the position of the family member.
Having seen this, both personally and through Teri's work, I have a strong
feel for what being a family member in this position entails.

Part of it is an understanding of the background to the problem.  Another
part is not letting the person use their previous abuse as an excuse for
present bad behavior.  Sympathy and understanding must be present, but
cannot be turned into a license and excuse for destructive behavior.

OK, so having given my metaphor, let me look at other aspects of the
situation.  One of the first that I wish to consider is the change in the
US political landscape in 1964.  From the 1870s to 1960, the solid south
existed.  The South would not vote for the party of Lincoln.  In Texas, the
voters were referred to as yeller dog Democrats; they proclaimed that
they'd vote for a yeller dog if it ran as a Democrat.  The only real
significant exception to this was '48 when the Dixiecrat candidate, Strom
Thurmond won 4 southern states.

In '64 Johnson signed the Civil Rights bill, and the political landscape
changed.  Barry Goldwater carried the solid Democratic south, and his own
state, and that's all.  Even though the Republican leadership went along
with the Civil Rights act, the fact that a Democratic president pushed the
legislation meant that Southerners now decided that, even though the
national Republican party was the party of Lincoln, it was still the lesser
of two evils...because they didn't push civil rights.  Local Democrats
could show that they voted against Civil Rights, and thus preserve their
own hides.

Nixon saw this, and he wasn't stupid.  He devised his "Southern Strategy"
to go and get these votes.  While Wallace got most of them instead, this
strategy has been part of the Republican party overall strategy every
since. Now, this cannot be said overtly, because no one can come out and
say they are against civil rights.  So, code phrases have been developed.
"State's rights" is the classic one.  The apologists for the Confederacy
insist that the war was about state's rights.  The supporters of
segregation claimed it was not anti civil-rights, but pro states rights.

Now, that doesn't mean that anyone who thinks that the balance in federal
and state power needs to be shifted more towards the states is racist.
There are indeed, principled arguments for this, that are not at all
racist.  What it means is that the use of this argument raises a red flag,
requiring people to carefully look at the context of the argument.

Another way this manifests itself is in terms of crime.  Its certainly not
that people should try to understand why a black man was driven to robbery.
I have very little difficulty with the concept that people who rob and kill
get the appropriate sentences, no matter how unfortunate their upbringing
was.  To use family therapy speak, that's just providing appropriate
structure.

What I am discussing is the obvious ways that attitudes towards "criminal
types" and asymmetric results for poor blacks and upper middle class whites
who commit non-violent crimes, and how white fear of blacks plays into
politics.  Let me give an example for each.

The first is the difference between the likelihood of a young black and a
young white drug user to end up serving time for drug use.  I know that
drug use is rampant in the upper middle class neighborhood that I live
in...and we're not just talking about a little pot smoking.  I also don't
know of a kid from here going to jail...well that's not true.  The drug
salesman who shot one of my former girl scouts in the head did get a short
sentence for his actions (she lost part of her brain in the shooting and
will never be the same).

This is not the case for poorer blacks.  A significant fraction of them go
to jail for drug use.  IIRC (and if need be I'll look it up) the number of
blacks and whites who go to jail for drugs is about equal.   There is no
way to look at the numbers and validate the assumption that an equal number
of blacks and whites use
drugs.

One can separate this into grass and harder drugs, too, and still get very
strong asymmetry.  Thus, we have a situation where poorer blacks are
criminalized for behavior that richer whites are not criminalized. To
consider this unconnected to the history of race relations in the US, and
to be unconnected to the desires of a large number of Americans is naive,
IMHO.  Its not naive to argue that's not _all_ that's going on.  If you
want to point out that simply decrying racism here will do little good, I
will certainly agree with you.

The second is the view of many whites of lower income blacks as the
"criminal type."  The strongest example of this was the argument that
defeated bus service to the Woodlands.  The strongest argument of the
opponents of mass transit was that it would increase the crime rate by
bringing  "the criminal element" to the Woodlands.

It would be funny, if it wasn't such a successful argument.  Can you
someone burglarizing a house  and then taking Metro back to the inner city
with all the goods in hand?

The third is to use the fear of blacks by whites in politics.  The classic,
of course, is the very successful Willy Horton ads.  It was no accident
that
the ads looked as they did.  Different examples and different color actors
were tried before focus groups, and the black man/white woman crime was the
classic.

Safety is a legitimate concern.  Being tough of crime doesn't make one a
racist.  So, bringing this up doesn't make one a racist.  But, when one
does focus groups to select the best ad and comes up with one that looks
like the one that ran, it is no accident.  The race card is being played
for political gain.

You may/have argue that the race card is being played by blacks too, in an
unfair manner.  I'm not arguing with that.  I'm just pointing out that the
Republicans have played it to their benefit the other way.

You can see it, also, in how Trent Lott got caught crossing the invisible
line.  I have a very hard time believing that the comment on things being
better if Thurman were president instead of Truman was an accident.  Its
one of those signals that's sent to the racist voters to let them know who
their true friends are.

This doesn't mean that Bush is a racist.  I rather think he is not; he just
accepts the political reality that keeping the racist vote is an important
part of the Republican success story, just as being polite to people like
Sharpton is part of the political requirements for Democrats.  I also would
not consider the first Lady a racist, even though she wrote an impassioned
editorial insisting that the very idea that the "War Between the States"
had anything to do with slavery was nothing more than liberal PC
revisionism.

But, Rush doesn't get that kind of pass from me.  While I admit that I
haven't listened to him for hours on end, and I haven't personally heard
things like his telling a black person to take the bone out of his nose and
then talk with him, I've lived for many years in the presence of many
dittoheads who quote him.  We are not talking about someone who gives a
thoughtful argument about how best to attack social problems.  Rather, we
have someone who rants for three hours, entertaining the faithful.

I'm not going to argue that there are no left wing rants.  But, when he
takes his rants off his show and brings it to a football pregame show, he's
crossed a couple of important lines. First, he no longer was preaching to
the faithful; rather his rants were in front of a diverse audience.
Second, he picked a topic that even the faithful didn't have much faith in.
Black quarterbacks getting raves only because of the bias of the liberal
media?  Even my racist friends (the one's who think that I'm obviously
biased by PC for not acknowledging that the inferiority of blacks is a
simple scientific fact) allows that the black QBs can actually be good
good.

Yes, he just gave one example, but it wasn't an off the cuff remark; he
planned to bring it up.  Since McNabb is just one of several high ranked
black quarterbacks, it would be hard to explain why you think all the other
black QBs deserve their reputations, but not McNabb.  The only consistent
reason for this viewpoint that I can think of is the belief that the old
days, when all the QBs were white, was a reflection of the natural order of
things.  You know, the inherent intelligence of whites and the inability of
whites to regard a black man as a leader, and all that other nonsense.

So, in short, while you could argue that PC has been used to attack very
reasonable conservative positions, that dog doesn't hunt with Rush.

Dan M.


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