----- Original Message ----- From: "John D. Giorgis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 9:09 PM Subject: Re: McNabb and Limbaugh Re: Raceism L3
> At 04:34 PM 10/19/2003 -0500 Dan Minette wrote: > >First of all, I'm 99% sure we agree that slavery was the original sin of > >the US, > > Just for the record, I disagree. The decimation of the Native Americans > is the "original" sin of the United States. Well, that slaughter started well before the US existed, so it did come first. But, I was thinking how racism is written into the Constitution. > > But the reasonable conservative viewpoint is not just that McNabb is > overrated.... which I think is a wrong viewpoint, but I must admit that it > is reasonable just because of its prevalence amongst the pro football > punditry class.... but it is also that the media wants to see black QB's do > well, and thus the media is less quick to turn on McNabb with criticism > because he is black than they would be if McNabb were white. i.e. to > argue that the racism of the media means that if McNabb were white like Jon > Kitna, people would have called him overrated much faster than they have. Nah, overrated means more than that. It means he was never very good to begin with, he was just the media's darling because he was black. The reason he got MVP votes is that he his black...it is clear that a white player deserved better. So, all the black QBs that didn't rate as high as he did were worse; only white QBs could be better. Further, you now need to assume that there is a liberal sportswriter push of the liberal agenda. > Moreover, the very timeline of the current situation backs up Gautam's > thesis. ESPN's NFL Countdown, while a live show, is a *rehearsed* >live show. At no point in the rehearsal nor at the live taping did anyone at > ESPN express shock or dismay at Rush's comments, including two black >former NFL Players on ESPN's panel. The network knew what they were getting with Rush. I'm sure that they wanted his target demographics. I can imagine how people who's expertise is sports would like to focus on why Rush is wrong in sports instead of getting in a political debate with him. Did you really expect two jocks to have the guts to go toe to toe with one of the most successful ranters of the 20th century? And, we don't even know if he brought up "liberal media bias" in the rehearsals. > On Monday following the game, there was again very little notice taken of > Rush's comments.... despite the fact that many people had no doubt by then > had the opportunity to review them, and any journalists watching ESPN's > show would no doubt have had the opportunity to write about them in their > Monday columns. Rush being racist isn't really news. Its been going on the air waves for almost two decades. If you want, I can see if he was an obvious racist all the way back in high school. My father in law went to high school with him. > Indeed, let us consider who objected to these comments..... *Al Sharpton* > objected to the comments. *Howard Dean* objected to the comments. > Democratic Presidential Candidate *Wesley Clark* objected to the remarks. I heard of it two ways: listening to sports radio in my car and listening to ESPN's I'm not exactly sure about the sequence. On ESPN, there was breathless coverage during the baseball playoffs. The feeling seemed to be that the buzz would continue to drive ratings up. I then heard about it on sports radio, where they quoted a sports columnist on it and said how stupid Rush was. This is in a _very_ conservative city, BTW. They got a fair number of calls on this subject. Most talked about how stupid Rush was; I don't remember anyone defending him. The real problem that I see is to have a Limbaugh hijack a pregame show for his rants. How would you like it if Jesse were a guest commentator and used the show as a platform for his rants? Finally, do you really think that the fact that Rush was in the process of being outed as a druggie had nothing to do with his resignation? > Pretty soon, Jesse Jackson was threatening a boycott of ESPN and even > ABC/Disney. Right, just like the SBC boycott. That didn't bother me; Jesse has a smaller following than them. No one wins against mouse, not even moose and squirrel. Dan M. _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
