Apologies for the confusion here. Our "welcome letter" email states:
You are currently publicly listed on our website's roster. If you wish to be unlisted, let me know, and I can hide your information. We have a few members who wish to do this for security reasons, but most of us remain public. If you prefer to be unlisted, please let me know. ...but maybe that language should be updated to state explicitly that that includes email address and phone number. Again, my apologies - I'm old enough to remember when everybody's phone number and home address was in the phone book delivered to every house in town, so I am perhaps less sensitive to having that information out there. (I'm also a security-sensitive IT manager who's had the same hotmail account for years and gets tons of phishing/spearphishing attacks, which I routinely report and delete... I've also been SIM-jacked - thanks, T-Mobile! - and had a couple of attempts at identity theft. But I still have my cell phone number listed on my Facebook page in case an old friend from high school or whatever wants to give me a shout...) A good BS detector will keep you out of more trouble than multifactor authentication, a trait that I desperately try to instill in my user community. Kori, let me know what info, if any, you want hidden. I have hidden William E.'s info and made Brad's phone number unlisted, as requested in this thread. Thanks for your patience with me, -Jeff Greer W5JEF BVARC Corresponding Secretary [email protected]/[email protected] 281-989-5798 ________________________________ From: BVARC <[email protected]> on behalf of mark janzer via BVARC <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2021 10:01 AM To: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB <[email protected]> Cc: mark janzer <[email protected]>; William Elliott <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [BVARC] YES!!!! Our email list is publicly available?!?!?!?!? FWIW, my email and phone number is plastered all over the website, email blasts, newsletters, etc. for the VE Testing. I've not experienced much unwanted spam or oddball phone calls, other than the typical robocalls that are subsequently blocked. Consider too, registering on the national nocall list to blunt some (but not all) of the telemarketing calls - National Do Not Call Registry<https://www.donotcall.gov/> <https://www.donotcall.gov/> National Do Not Call Registry I also do not Facebook, Twitter, TikTok, LinkedIn or any of those platforms where I'm their product... 73 Mark K5MGJ On Wednesday, February 3, 2021, 09:35:56 AM CST, Eddie Runner via BVARC <[email protected]> wrote: Traditionally, HAMS have used the public information to exchange QSL CARDS and other correspondence worldwide... On the HAM bands it is very common to hear one ham tell another that he is good on QRZ.... that means his address is up to date with the FCC if someone wants to contact him.. On our local repeaters, it is common to hear one of our members tell someone he is good on the roster.. meaning his contact info is up to date.. this is what hams do !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We have in the last few years made a provision in our BVARC record keeping that can keep the info on file but only show on our online roster name and call sign.. We have the ability (IF ASKED) to make the phone private.. And we also have the ability (IF ASKED) to make you not show up at all in the public roster... (to become private please email: whoops, that guy doesn't want to share his email... Just kidding, email: [email protected].. or me directly [email protected] as I maintain the website ) HOWEVER.. You will show up on QRZ.com and many other websites including the FCCs website. So making yourself private on BVARC is very tiny compared to your ham information covering the globe with many many other websites that WILL NOT remove you.. In the first post from Kori Rahman, he found his name in a search of the BVARC REFLECTORs past messages.. ([email protected] reflector is shared to other users (club members and some non club menbers) and also shared on the web publicly from our website.. Its the webmasters job to get this information into the search engines so folks can find out about ham radio and find out about the Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club!!! (patting myself on the back for a job well done... ) Eddie Runner [email protected] NU5K On Wednesday, February 3, 2021, 07:16:14 AM CST, William Elliott via BVARC <[email protected]> wrote: I'm a month into the club and my info popped up too. I'd rather that not be publicly posted. -K15MKV On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 4:28 AM Kori Rahman via BVARC <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Hello all! So I just did a Google search of my call sign (which I will not be stating again) and the VERY FIRST thing that came up was my personal email to the club list. I was... kinda shocked and surprised. I was under the impression these emails were for club members ONLY. Apparently this email list is posted to the public and I'm concerned about that. I have personal information in my signature (name, phone number etc. which may be used to send me spam calls) that could easily be parsed by an algorithm... This seems like a major security issue to me and should be fixed. I have to wonder who is sending these emails to this website??? If the club is doing this they should inform us that anything we say on this list is not a private email but a public statement to all of the internet and everyone on the planet. I would appreciate some feedback on this and how this email I sent to the club was posted publicly on the internet for all the world to see.... Maybe this is the intent of the club, but I will certainly think twice about sending anything out now and censoring my email signature. This must be laid out clearly to all new members. One of many offending post: https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg09908.html The use of the word "Private" is extensive in this page I was sent with my welcome to the list: http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org Look.... I'm not SUPER diligent about reading absolutely everything I get, but this seems like an extremely important thing to tell folks... I've been a member for about 2 months so maybe this has been brought up before. I just feel there needs to be more transparency if this is how it is. - My call is in the offending link ________________________________________________ Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club BVARC mailing list [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org ________________________________________________ Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club BVARC mailing list [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org ________________________________________________ Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club BVARC mailing list [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org
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