On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Moinak Ghosh<moinakg at belenix.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Dave Miner<dminer at opensolaris.org> wrote:
>> Michael Sichler wrote:
>>>
>>> Dave,
>>>
> [...]>
>>>> So far we expect that most such customers will deploy using
>>>> automated installation from network repositories, not CD/DVD.<
>>>
>>> Not saying I disagree, but what do you base this on? ?Some would find
>>> it easier to just pop in a DVD, select the packages and build a
>>> system.
>>>
>>> Again, thanks for your reply.
>>
>> I'm sure that some would, but experience has been that media-based
>> installation are not widely used by "corporations and government agencies"
>> as you were defining the potential users. ?Most of their deployments are
>> done using automation frameworks that pull packages or images from network
>> servers, so features that support those scenarios are where we're spending
>> the bulk of the effort that's targeted at those customers.
>
> ? In addition a LiveDVD does not automatically imply ability of
> package selection.
> ? A live image is the image of an installed system and is transferred
> to hdd as is.
> ? So a live DVD image will be a much bigger install probably to the
> tune of a 10GB
> ? OS image. One can of course "remove" packages after the transfer
> but that is a
> ? waste. One cannot selectively transfer packages from a live image.
> ? It is also possible to put the liveCD image on the DVD and also bundle in an
> ? offline repository but then again, you may choose not to install all 
> packages
> ? therein. Then what is the point of downloading stuff you may not
> need. Download
> ? only additional stuff that you need directly from the package repo,
> when you need
> ? it. That brings us back to the liveCD approach.
>
> Regards,
> Moinak.
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Moinak: It is well possible, as I explained 2 months ago.
Just put exactly the LiveCD stuff onto a DVD medium.
But change the install method aways from copying over a huge
monolithic "live" image to a pkg based installation.

Then different install cluster can be offered once again, like in the old times.
No big deal, conceptually. I think Sun's engineers could implement a
test release in a few days. A single person might need 2 weeks.


Regards,
Martin Bochnig

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