On Saturday 13 November 2004 17:22, J. Antas wrote:

> And, please do take a look at the second part of this posting:
> http://tinyurl.com/6g4ez

sorry, I missed the point here
Do you want to open the faucets? To bring in an common threat surely 
challenges a community and may induce cooperation.

> You may not agree with the methodology, but do you see clearer now?

No - I'm feeling like people in the middle-age who believed that the earth 
is flat and did not understand the heliocentric ideas of Copernicus. 
Please help me to understand.

My idea - and I believe the idea of many if the people involved here - is 
to add small pieces of value to a big common project. And, certainly, 
this pieces should be integrated somehow into the product. 

And I agree to your (and to Alex Hoelzel's and maybe also to Wilfried 
Goedert's) proposals or claims of how to optimize project organisation or 
communication and so on. But I can not make them become reality, I just 
don't know how. I don't think that it is so simple as to agree that 
Elpidio must delegate some of his less important tasks to somebody else. 
I think that it is necessary to agree to the general project goal, but 
from then on, only god helps - or the right people. 

So what we (i.e. the members of the community) can do is - nothing. If 
there is nobody who will take the responisbility to set up this or that, 
or - if somebody does this first part of the job but then his efforts are 
not accepted by the community (like the bug tracker or maybe the DocWiki) 
or - if they arrive at the wrong moment or - ... then again, nothing will 
get better.

So one possible solution could be that we all start to promote the project 
in common. It will then show up if we (whoever will participate) have the 
critical power to get things rolling.

Have a nice saturday evening
Nino


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