I'm familiar with Scratch, my daughter used it in elementary.  I had
forgotten about it though - it seemed focused on the task of depicting and
moving objects on a 2D area, not so much in general information processing
(but still, yes it could be a starting point).   One hallmark of a "good
development environment" that someone once told me is that that development
environment can be used to create itself.   Like, by Borland Delphi 2, they
used Delphi to create Delphi.   Same on the Visual Studio development team
- they compile and develop VS using VS.   So, I wonder if Scratch can
create itself?   It's not a hard rule, just a casual observation on the
"robustness" or maturity of a given development environment.

There's always been a kind of "two tiers" of software developers - those
who can create reusable routines (libraries) and those who can mold
existing libraries to build applications.  Obviously some can do both, but
generally the latter get "stuck" if there isn't some existing
function/routine in an API to do what they need to do -- like open a
socket, start a thread, or query system time.  The former tends to need to
sink into OS and HW specifics.

With this "blocked" code floating in VR -- the idea is then "behind the
code" to show a virtualization of the resources needed by that code, to
quickly get an idea of the hardware requirements (relative to how many
resources it is using) and also linkages to other software, to get a feel
for the overall complexity.    These are important metric to see the
versatility of re-using that code in other environments/platforms.

And back on the stenography-keyboard like thing -- what about morphing
keys?  If a keyboard had actual screens on the keys, and the keys change
(the actual symbol) based on the context of whatever you're doing.  I know
we have macros and reprogrammable keyboards, but morphing the actual symbol
on the keys might be neat.

Also, does any processor support a dynamic instruction set?  I've wonder if
some instruction-set optimizer might find improvements by indicating your
program could be executed more efficiently if such-and-such instruction was

On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 11:49 PM Sellam Abraham via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 6:41 PM Steve Lewis via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> > BTW, I've wondered if some form of stenography could be used for software
> > development.   In my mind, it would make sense to just program directly
> in
> > a kind of Abstract Syntax Tree (AST) from the beginning - why bother with
> > all the syntaxic sugar and peddling ascii text characters around a file
> to
> > form a program.   So now I wonder if "building" a program using an AST
> > might be possible in VR.. you "grab" a FOR loop virtually from a box on
> the
> > left, add it to your program tree, and build out from there decorating
> the
> > tree....
> >
> Are you familiar with Google Scratch?
> https://scratch.mit.edu/
> Add the VR interface and you basically have what you describe.
> Sellam

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