I don't know much about Canadian law, but I would agree that you should be
looking for other employment. Some employers have a hard time understanding
why you should be making as much a year out of school as it might have taken
them a decade to build up to. They don't like it, and simply won't budge.
Also, the fact that you are working for a non-profit doesn't help. They may
simply not have the available funds, but that shouldn't stop you from trying
to earn a living.
-Cameron
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Cameron Childress
ElliptIQ Inc.
p.770.460.7277.232
f.770.460.0963
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 9:17 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Getting Ridiculous
>
>
> Guy,
>
> From what you've said, bag the job. They have gone beyond
> underpaying you to
> exploitation. You may even want to contact the Ontario Provincial Ministry
> of Labour about your employers. You have tried all possible routes to
> something far more reasonable and they won't budge. I'd start sending out
> resumes and prepare a 2 week notice. You also may want to look at
> Ontario's
> Labour Laws. From the sounds of it (and I'm no lawyer) they may be in
> violation of them. At the very least, you have the right to give
> your notice
> one pay period in advance. They don't like it, too bad.
>
> With the experience you listed you should be able to get at least
> $35,000/yr
> in Ontario.
>
> larry
> --
> Larry C. Lyons
> ColdFusion/Web Developer
> EBStor.com
> 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204
> Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795
> tel: (703) 393-7930
> fax: (703) 393-2659
> Web: http://www.pacel.com
> http://www.ebstor.com
> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done.
> --
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 08:50:26 -0500
> > From: "Guy J. McDowell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Getting Ridiculous
> > Message-ID: <000001c0650b$a78daf20$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > Looking for a little fatherly (or motherly) advice.
> >
> > Situation:
> > 8 months out of college working at a non-profit, developing CF for a
> > year.
> > Webmaster managing and developing 8 (eight) domains, sole developer.
> > Currently being compensated at about $12,000 CDN / year no benefits.
> > Educated employer about market value and what their options were if I
> > died tomorrow.
> > (That being a starting salary of about $45k/year for someone straight
> > out of college or they could hire the only other guy in the 100Km
> > radius area that is at my developing level (or above) in CF for
> > $100/hr)
> > I also looked at public financial statement and deduced that the
> > average salary for full-time employment in this organization is about
> > $40K/yr (mostly biologists and administrators).
> >
> > I made a reasonable request of $35K/yr plus standard benefits.
> > They're coming back with a one year contract offer of about $25K/yr no
> > benefits, no negotiation.
> >
> > The group does good work and I'll always be a member, but this job is
> > beginning to cost me money.
> >
> > I'm thinking I should request a two-weeks clause so that I can leave
> > with 2 weeks notice and inform them that I will be looking for
> > employment elsewhere. I'd like to know if this would be perceived as
> > ethical by employers out there. Or any other courses of action that
> > would be suitable and practical.
> >
> > Also, what does it take to get a job with a firm that focuses on
> > CF/Web Development? I really want to grow and learn more.
> >
> > Please accept my apologies if this sounds like whining, I'm just
> > running out of ways to deal with this.
> >
> > Yours In Conservation,
> >
> > Guy J. McDowell,
> > Webmaster
> > The Ontario Federation of Anglers & Hunters
> > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Phone: (705) 748-6324 ext. 262
> >
> > P.S.
> > Check out the ALL NEW www.InvadingSpecies.com site as well as the rest
> > of our lineup...
> > www.OFAH.org - The flagship site for the O.F.A.H.
> > www.AuctionForWildlife.com - Your chance to make your bid for
> > conservation.
> > www.EcoEd.org - an online adventure for kids in grades 1 through 8.
> > www.HuntingDog.org - Celebrating our Hunting Dog Heritage.
> > www.AHTV.com - Your online companion to the Angler and Hunter
> > Television show.
> > www.OHEP.net - Where to find out and learn about the Ontario Hunter
> > Education Program.
>
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