I started the rant fund about the family subsidies...
here's are my points, candidly speaking:
I grew up poor.. My family never benefited from government welfare
directly, only tax bracket wise. I started working when I was thirteen
and made a go since then.
I learned being poor sucked and to overcome such you must work and
constantly educate yourself.
My parents had three children. We all work and make our share.
Candidly, we do better than most, and I do as well as anyone from
anywhere.
Government subsidies and public school taxation never provided squat
for me. I saw the need and the means and sought it. I don't think it
is some gift or I was lucky. I applied myself. I studied those that
made it. I absorbed technology like most people sat around absorbing
TV... while the other folks did drugs, got laid and generally jerked
off I was working and gaining experiences.
Let's face it, the difference between the average poor average IQ
person and the average middle class or upper class kid with average IQ
isn't much... Just that the middle class kid most often has a good
safety net and a parent based referral group to bail him/her out. Not
to mention the tools to look more polished sooner and the numbers to
call earlier...
The average folks will be average folks... You can educate everyone and
hand out PHDs for obedience and have a wholistically over qualified to
do anythiing (and likely not to do anything) workforce. I see many
Wendy's manager with college degrees... I know people who have been
students for 15+ years in colleges, obviously a stress free career I am
paying for as well.
Education is everywhere. Don't expect us to pay for yours or your
childrens... go bus tables, mow lawns, etc. Pay your dues... and if
that isn't enough get a second job or third job... sell your blood...
do whatever it takes. Reminds me of the humor everytime I see people
starving in African countries... no water.. no sewage... all messed
up.. they won't leave and they keep screwing up and reproducing..
I choose not to have kids now, why? Because I can't afford to and can't
provide the adequate time to supervise and mentor since I work fulltime
plus.
That brings me to another point. All sorts of people want daycare
sponsorships and subsidies as well... On my end I would pay 600-900 a
month, but some get big subsidies so they can work they can work their
6-10$ an hour job... what gives?
I want a Ferrari real bad, maybe the government will let me deduct it
as a child, after all it needs to go to the shop all the time, has to
be stored in special storage and needs new shoes all the time... and
heck maybe I need 2 or three of them to make up for my own inadequacy..
Just doesn't sound right does it?
Children are hardly our future, for most everyone they are your legacy.
Your way of trying to live on forever. A support group that can chump
up some cool things you said or did... Hell everyone wants to be
immortal and idolized.
Face it, we aren't an agricultral based society.. we don't need kids to
maintain the farm... But from what I hear, it seems like the
government does its best to reward people for creating more consumers.
What I think really is people have nothing better to do and people have
too much easy time and rewards for reproducing... heck another annoying
thing:
You get pregnant and have a kid, both your and your husband can take
quite a bit of time off work and we subsidize your wage while you do
such.. up to 6 weeks...
I have an idea, I am stressed and would like to take 6 weeks off and
explore my bedroom and get some sleep... Funny how I can't get the same
deal... isn't fair...is it?
Remember flat consumption based taxes... that is a good start... you
use more, you pay more... not you make more you pay more... heck maybe
that is right they just haven't applied it correctly.. stated:
you have more children, you pay more, because you use more.
And another thing, social security tax... let me out... if I can't
build wealth in 60+ years or I can't invest it or I don't have
children/family to care for me or I don't want to work, I should indeed
suffer. Social security was a just in case policy.. it wasn't meant to
dole money out to everyone... Geez geezers, how we forget.
that's how I see it...
-paris
[finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present]
[connecting people, places and things]
-----Original Message-----
From: Judith Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 00:09:13 -0400
Subject: RE: Revenge has it's place
> At 10:59 PM 6/12/01 Raymond wrote:
> >What about the Marva down at the trailer park who only has 2
> children and a
> >job that pays slightly over minimum wage. Should we tax her enough
> to cover
> >the cost of educating her kids... tax her enough so that she can't
> afford
> >food.
>
> First of all, I'm not anti-family. I just feel like I paid my share,
> others should do the same.
>
> If our tax dollars weren't going to pay for Maybelline's 8+ rug rats,
> there
> would be enough to educate Marva's 2 - she's working and paying taxes
> so I
> don't have a problem with helping her out some. Although I would
> question
> why, with birth control readily available, anyone who is only making
> minimum wage would have two children. One maybe..but not more.
>
> I will admit I'm a real hard ass about this. Few things make me
> madder
> than some news story about this poor homeless, pregnant woman with 5
> kids
> who needs 'help'...if she's homeless with 5 kids, she should have
> kept her
> knees together. I have absolutely no pity, and I certainly don't
> want my
> money going to pay for her mistakes.
>
> I'm not against education, although I think the current system is
> rotten to
> the core, and much better education for all children could be had at
> a much
> lower price if the bloat of the bureaucracy was eliminated and real
> educators put in charge.
>
> You may be right though about education being the only way to break
> the
> cycle. So I'll ask the government if they'll only use my tax dollars
> to
> pay for birth control classes. What? It's illegal? My, my!!
>
> JC
>
>
>
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