> I grew up poor.. My family never benefited from government welfare
> directly, only tax bracket wise. I started working when I was thirteen
> and made a go since then.
Did you go to a public school? Yes or no?
> I learned being poor sucked and to overcome such you must work and
> constantly educate yourself.
I don't disagree with this.
> Government subsidies and public school taxation never provided squat
> for me. I saw the need and the means and sought it. I don't think it
> is some gift or I was lucky. I applied myself. I studied those that
> made it. I absorbed technology like most people sat around absorbing
> TV... while the other folks did drugs, got laid and generally jerked
> off I was working and gaining experiences.
Did you go to public school?
> Education is everywhere. Don't expect us to pay for yours or your
> childrens... go bus tables, mow lawns, etc. Pay your dues... and if
> that isn't enough get a second job or third job... sell your blood...
> do whatever it takes. Reminds me of the humor everytime I see people
> starving in African countries... no water.. no sewage... all messed
> up.. they won't leave and they keep screwing up and reproducing..
Ok, so let's send the kids to work. Is 6 years old enough to work?
> That brings me to another point. All sorts of people want daycare
> sponsorships and subsidies as well... On my end I would pay 600-900 a
> month, but some get big subsidies so they can work they can work their
> 6-10$ an hour job... what gives?
Errr... once again, children keep the human race alive.
> I want a Ferrari real bad, maybe the government will let me deduct it
> as a child, after all it needs to go to the shop all the time, has to
> be stored in special storage and needs new shoes all the time... and
> heck maybe I need 2 or three of them to make up for my own inadequacy..
> Just doesn't sound right does it?
Oh, so people have children to make up for their own inadequacy? Jeeze man,
maybe people have children because they love them. Maybe they have children
because people have been creating families since we crawled out of the
trees.
> Children are hardly our future, for most everyone they are your legacy.
> Your way of trying to live on forever. A support group that can chump
> up some cool things you said or did... Hell everyone wants to be
> immortal and idolized.
Man, I really feel sorry for you if this is how you feel. I wanted a child
because I wanted a family. I didn't want someone to worship me, I didn't
want a support group, I wanted a family. Is this _really_ how you view
families?
> Face it, we aren't an agricultral based society.. we don't need kids to
> maintain the farm... But from what I hear, it seems like the
> government does its best to reward people for creating more consumers.
Once again though you are mixing apples and oranges. Welfare abuse is
something different. But, let's face facts. You can't force someone to get a
hysterectamy(sp). You can't force abortions on people. Life is rough.
> You get pregnant and have a kid, both your and your husband can take
> quite a bit of time off work and we subsidize your wage while you do
> such.. up to 6 weeks...
Again - w/o children, the world comes to a halt. When a woman gets pregnant
and has a child, it's not like delivering the mail. It's an extreme process
and you can't expect them to go back to work the day after. Should a woman
get fired for wanting to spend a few weeks w/ her child? My God, Paris, I
can understand your frustration with welfare mothers who pop kids out just
to get money, but it sounds like you are saying there is NO good reason for
anyone to have a child.
Raymond Camden
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