I basicaly aggree with Larry, except I acknowledge that there is so much 
historical and emotional conotation to the word "mariage" and all its 
derivatives that often come from religious roots, that I would give the 
religious cermony that word.  I think the civil commitiment recognized 
by the state can more easily be given a new name, such as "civil 
union".  If that was done, it would be so much harder to maintain this 
debate that I would think it would eventially die away.

Ian


Larry C. Lyons wrote:

>I think it should be the other way around. Religions should get out of
>marriage. If people want some sort of civil commitment that would give
>the legal benefits of what we now consider marriage fine. If they want
>the religious ceremony with it, then they can schedule a separate
>ceremony. Churches should not be agents of the government.
>
>larry
>
>  
>

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