> It's actually quite easy - but perhaps not necessary.
> A gun is far from the only thing that could cause harm
> to the child or others and even a five-year old of the
> right build (especially when adrenaline charged) can
> overpower an adult of the right build.

I don't see it... I don't think an invalid should be allowed to hold a
job as a teacher.

>> a gun in which case the concern isn't so much the child's
>> temper anyway.) Kids are kids. Sometimes kids throw fits -
>> that's life. A competent, responsible adult is capable of
>> dealing with the situation without involving the police.
>> Police intervention in any situation

> This is normally true - but most adults lack the training
> needed to do that and some kids are incredibly difficult
> to control even with training.

Not 5 yr olds. Worst case scenario is you lock them in a "safe room"
(not a closet) like their bedroom until they calm down. If they don't
calm down, you take them home and keep them in their bedroom until
they do -- days if necessary. It's a pretty common-sense answer and
it's something a) every adult can do and b) every child will
eventually respond to.

> Reasonable people are actually quite bad (in general) in
> dealing with unreasonable situations for which they've
> not been trained.

I disagree that this requires any training... I think it's indicative
of people wanting a "magic pill" for any situation they don't like,
and our culture makes it easy for them to get their magic pill by
throwing up their hands and saying "I just can't deal with this" or
"it's not my fault, I'm not trained". That's a BS answer that only
really satisfies an adult's desire to be unresponsible (read
irresponsible) in a situation they don't like.

> Secondly all kids throw fits, some kids throw FITS.
> If you've never had the opportunity to see one of the
> latter then you just don't know how bad things
> can (and do) get.

Unless they had a lethal weapon, they'd have to be older than 5.

> In this specific case I would expect the (multiple)
> teachers to be able to handle the problem without
> calling outside help.  But to say this should always
> be the case doesn't seem right to me.  I can easily
> see scenarios where frustrated adults unable to
> control the situation may call the police. Who else
> are they going to call, the fire department?

In theory possibly paramedics to restrain them if the child was
hurting or threatening to hurt themselves.

> Personally I would rather they recognize their
> inability to control the situation and call the
> police than escalate things to the point that the
> child is allowed to hurt themselves or others or
> hurt by the over-extended adult.

I think that feeds into an all-too-popular american societal malaise
(re: magic pill), much like the massive over-prescription of
psychotropic drugs for small children which happens mostly because we
just don't like the way kids behave when they're being kids. Like the
overprescription of drugs which encourages a mindset of continual
dependence on prescription drugs as these children become older ("I'm
unhappy, there must be something wrong with me, there must be a pill I
can take to make me happy."), it encourages an increasing dependence
on outside forces to deal with our problems because we don't like
taking responsibility for them. I may not enjoy dealing with an angry
child, but I suck it up and I deal with it because I'm an adult.


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