Since I have taken the time to find you links on how Keynes got us out of the Depression, I figured I might was well further educate you. Here is Ruskin's argument on wages, which you have not answered yet:
The natural and right system respecting all labour is, that it should be paid at a fixed rate, but the good workman employed, and the bad workmen unemployed<http://www.ourcivilisation.com/smartboard/shop/ruskinj/last/nt1/bad.htm>. The false, unnatural, and destructive system is, when the bad workman is allowed to offer his work at half-price, and either take the place of the good, or force him by his competition to work for an inadequate sum. That is from *The Roots of Honour*, an essay in *Unto this Last*. I found the text at http://www.ourcivilisation.com/smartboard/shop/ruskinj/last/chap1.htm I assume you have actually heard of Charles Dickens and were simply being facetious when you asked why I brought him up. Dana On 9/24/05, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > <g> I give you emotion and you complain it's not analysis. I ask you for > analysis and you give me emotion. You say goodbye, I say hello... hello > hello hello? > *Does* capitalism really allow each person to set their own standard of > living? Perhaps the term wage slave was invented for a reason. Maybe this is > why some people insist on the importance of a liberal education. Did you > ever read Ruskin? Or Dickens? > To answer your question - I guess it depends what you think a life is > worth. > Dana > > On 9/24/05, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Dana wrote: > > > I do find the > > > idea that people should be paid enough to not need government services > > > > > rather compelling from a moral point of view > > > > We get into philosophy here as I think the most moral thing is > > capitalism as it allows each person to set their own living standard > > and I believe most, not all, poor people are choosing their own living > > standard. > > > > If the 1000 people not making a "living wage" want more money then why > > not do what the rest of us do and go to college, etc? > > > > Let me pose the question a different way: do you owe anybody a living? > > Should you be forced by the gov't to pay your neighbor a living wage? > > If you shouldn't, how about your small business? How about your > > corporation? > > > > That's why I'm asking you to pin a percentage down - how many people > > do you think are poor by choice rather than because they are > > physically incapable of earning more? I think those physically > > incapable of it is low, say 20% or less of those living below the > > poverty line. > > > > If that's true, why do I owe the other 80% a living? Why should I > > work hard to subsidize those unwilling too? > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:175111 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
