Where's the list mom?  If there are only two in a thread for more than 3
days then it's a personal conversation, or you're not going to change
the other person's mind.  Move on. ;>)

-----Original Message-----
From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 2:56 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: also circulating the email lists....re katrina

Gruss. Let me explain something to you. If the people were not earning
their
salary, they would not have a job, or would not keep it long. You keep
repeating that they are not they are not they are not. It's old. So is
your
insistence that it's a subsidy. The fact that you keep saying this does
not
make it so.

Personally, I think it is true conservatism to leave people the hell
alone.
If they choose to be lazy rather than affluent, that is their choice. I
do
not believe that most people will go this way when they have a choice,
but
supposing you are right. Just suppose. What are you going to do about
it?
 I've have people tell me that IT is not an appropriate field for a
woman,
how is what you are proposing any different?

"Oh, excuse me Mr. Sanchez, you appear to be too stupid to realize that
if
you go to B-school, you can be a manger, so we are going to require that
you
do so."
 ?
 be serious
Dana
 On 10/4/05, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Dana wrote:
> > Gruss. You're a theory X manager aren't you. I can tell.
> >
>
> Just trying figure out where you stand. You're very worried about
> taking care of people, but it doesn't seem as if you've fully
> considered the ramifications of paying people what they've not earned.
>
> BTW - Worrying about people's careers is conservative, not liberal!
> Paying someone a wage the market doesn't support is a waste of both
> vital resources: labor and capital. And, as every good capitalist
> knows, "waste impoverishes us all".
>
> I'd like to see a win-win: the people get the skills they need to earn
> more than minimum wage, and society gets a labor resource worth paying
> for.
>
> 



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