> Dana wrote:
>  I really don't think knowledge is the issue. It's time. Remember Isaac's
> mother? If you're making thirty-five or fifty cents an hour net, meaning
> that it takes sixty hours a week just to keep your kids in diapers, you may
> not feel that college is worth the time away from your kids.

But that's WHY education is needed!  Why the hell does somebody who
can't make more than minimum wage having kids?  Bad choice.

This discussion is the classic positional (you) vs principled (me)
argument.  You've taken the position that MW is good rather than ask
yourself about the principles behind that position.

E.g., I favor prevention and offer education and infrastructure as a
solution.  You say that education won't work so you toss out
prevention in favor of treatment.

Gov't is not all bad - it's how it helps that's the key.  My gov't
solution is for infrastructure, not management.  For example, building
electrical, phone, and roads to rural communities in the first part of
the 20th century.

This now gives people *access* to compete, i.e., it puts them in the
game but they have to hit the ball.

Your solution is to have somebody else hit the ball for them and hope
they never need more than the one hit.

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