I don't have time to defend straw men today, sorry. Education apparently didn't help Isaac's mother, who did have a high school diploma. Sure, having that many kids with an abusive man was a bad choice, and what would you suggest her high school do to prevent it? Most likely she learned at home that this is what men and women do. As for what you say I have done, sure, of course my mind is closed, that's why I asked your opinion, and that's why I posted an articulate opposing view point. I just don't see very much intelligent opposition, except for that one letter. You're running around saying communism, communism, communism and the chamber of commerce here is all upset because of access issues, even though the language is based on NLRB case law. And sure government is the problem. If you had ever had the government try to help you you would know that. Dana On 9/30/05, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Dana wrote: > > I really don't think knowledge is the issue. It's time. Remember Isaac's > > mother? If you're making thirty-five or fifty cents an hour net, meaning > > that it takes sixty hours a week just to keep your kids in diapers, you > may > > not feel that college is worth the time away from your kids. > > But that's WHY education is needed! Why the hell does somebody who > can't make more than minimum wage having kids? Bad choice. > > This discussion is the classic positional (you) vs principled (me) > argument. You've taken the position that MW is good rather than ask > yourself about the principles behind that position. > > E.g., I favor prevention and offer education and infrastructure as a > solution. You say that education won't work so you toss out > prevention in favor of treatment. > > Gov't is not all bad - it's how it helps that's the key. My gov't > solution is for infrastructure, not management. For example, building > electrical, phone, and roads to rural communities in the first part of > the 20th century. > > This now gives people *access* to compete, i.e., it puts them in the > game but they have to hit the ball. > > Your solution is to have somebody else hit the ball for them and hope > they never need more than the one hit. > >
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