Sam wrote: > Nature has been that way forever (Gruss) and now we want to change the > understanding of it. If gay couple could have sex and produce children > naturally, where the child has DNA from both parents, then they would > be accepted as core family values. Since they can't, without the help > of science that is, they are left with civil unions. This means they > are not equal, but our laws can't change nature. We accept that they > are truly in love and can do an excellent job raising children but we > can't force people to believe a family of two fathers and children are > just as natural as a mother and father.
So the impotent, the barren, etc. shouldn't get married? What about people who can have kids, but don't want them? And, quite frankly, you use the term "family values" in a way I have a deep problem with. The term has been co-opted to mean the traditional nuclear family with one mom, one dad, and 2.7 children. What about my family, where I helped and am helping raise my sister? What about my cousins, who adopted three black children, making them a very obviously non-traditional family? What about my date this weekend with a very loving and devoted single mother? What about my friend who was molested by her natural fater? Families aren't just about a mother and a father. > The problem I see is if there's no moral behavior as a guide then sex > becomes a non-issue. When there are no guidelines to sex the whole > sanctity of marriage gets lost and culture loses its foundation. Even > if you don't agree being faithful to one person and having a strong > family structure is what keeps us civilized, I feel without these > guidelines there are no core beliefs to keep people in check. I'm not > saying gay marriage will erode those beliefs, I'm saying teaching kids > that it doesn't matter who they couple with will. How does telling my (hypothetical) gay son that it's okay for him to be in love with a man equate to telling him it doesn't matter who he screws? Are you equating homosexuality with promiscuity, or are you saying homosexuality is immoral? > And on rights, what about my right to leave marriage as is? What about my rights to own slaves? What about my right for sufferage to be limited to white males (ie me)? What about my right to get a cheeseburger from Checkers (they closed years ago, and I still miss them)? --Ben ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Protect your mail server with built in anti-virus protection. It's not only good for you, it's good for everybody. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=39 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:180656 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
