On 12/22/05, Vivec wrote:
> No. It is not the 'known' terrorists.
> That is the sort of nationalistic tripe that some Americans would like
> to believe.
>
> Sam, if they were 'known' terrorists why haven't they been brought in?
> You think there are thousands of 'known' terrorists in the US?

You totally missed the mark. These are cases where they are monitoring
Bin Laden or other known terrorists cell phones or emails. Once it
comes to the US we need to stop listening. This action allows us to
keep listening even if on US soil. But the calls are generating from a
known terrorist overseas or going to these terrorists.

> The technologies are actually designed to monitor a vast number of
> communications and computers pick words, try to interpret context etc.
> and flag certain conversations. You think that the CIA/FBI Has a vast
> list of KNOWN terrorists that are operating in the United States?
> Please.
See above

> They're tracking the local militia on the corner, the ACLU, the EFF
> and the kid who has a beef with bush and a daddy that's ex-military.
> They're tracking and monitoring ordinary citizens.

You're talking about the Patriot Act. Different subject. There's
another thread about that you can join.

> You forget oh so quickly the report which stated the alarming number
> of FALSE and improper uses of the Patriot Act over the years!
Above

> Americans seem to have no care or concern for their privacy, or their
> rights as citizens. They seem content to allow the state to subvert
> their Rights and to be proud and happy to lose the Freedoms that
> people in other countries hold dear and which their forefathers fought
> and died for, all in the name of stopping 'Terrorism'.

I hate the fact that we had a laptop in custody but couldn't look at
it. I'm glad that the Brooklyn Bomber was stopped as well as many
others.
If a terrorist calls me I would hope the government would be listening
in. That's what I'm ok with, not randomly tapping citizens.

> Well you're welcomed to that sort of lifestyle.
>
> Where are your papers Herr Sam? Why don't you just go right now and
> get the GPS Tracking receiver implanted in your Scalp like a Good
> Citizen that monitors exactly where you are and anything you say? It
> WILL help stop Terrorism Sam! Do it now!
> Do it for your Country!

Gee thanks for the pointers.

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