I buy that defense is the responsibility of the government. How are education, economic development and health care not being taken care of by the private sector? Or at least at state and local government?
> -----Original Message----- > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 11:27 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: US Propganda against Chavez stretches into Media > > In your definitions. > > I support appropriately sized government. I idea is that > government should do the needed stuff that the private sector > is not willing or cannot do. This includes education, health > care, defense, economic development and so on. I think that a > rational approach that emphasizes what works rather than what > is politically expedient is more appropriate. Look at what > has been shown to work, if necessary set up experiments and > see what works best. > > I take a very historical and an international perspective on > government and democracy. Just like the communist nations > went too far to the collectivist side, I think that the US is > moving too far to the individualist side. > > Besides if you're buying the beer, I'll be drinking it. > > larry > > On 1/6/06, Tim Heald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm not trying to suppress your free speech friend, I just > can't see > > why you would want to come here, knowing the history of the United > > States, knowing your politics, and knowing what you believe. > > > > You've made it clear, at least to me, that you support bigger, more > > intrusive government, over the rights of the individual. > From those > > with ability to those without. The rights of the many over > the rights > > of the few (or the individual). We're on opposite side > man. We know that. > > > > Why take it personally? You know we can still chill and > drink a beer > > :) It just bugs me that we are importing liberals, and giving them > > the right to vote. You know that. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 10:45 AM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: Re: US Propganda against Chavez stretches into Media > > > > > > And your point is? > > > > > > Because I can see some good done in a country that was a slimy > > > corrupt pesthole of the US's making before the revolution > that means > > > I cannot speak my mind? Aren't you trying to do the same as the > > > Castro regime does - suppress free speech? > > > > > > Remember that the Baptista regime that was in power before the > > > revolution was far worse than the current government. It > was in the > > > pocket of American corporations and US based organized crime. > > > > > > When I see good I'll speak out, when I see stupidity I shall also > > > speak out. The current policy of the US government > towards Cuba is > > > stupid, hypicritical and counter productive. > > > If it had used the same approach as it did with the Soviets, the > > > Castro regime would have suffered the same fate. The current > > > policies play right into the hands of the Castro > government. In one > > > sense these policies make the US the best ally that the Castro > > > dictatorship can have - an outside enemy that everything can be > > > blamed on. > > > > > > larry > > > > > > On 1/6/06, Tim Heald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > This is ok with you, at the expense of freedom of > speech, at the > > > > expense of liberty? > > > > > > > > Jesus. You're going to be a citizen of the United States? > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 10:12 AM > > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > > Subject: Re: US Propganda against Chavez stretches into Media > > > > > > > > > > Given that the country has a higher literacy rate, fewer > > > poor people > > > > > with better health care, and a considerably lower infant > > > death rate > > > > > than any other country in the region, I would say > that that is a > > > > > fairly good definition of national success. BTW that infant > > > > > death rate is considerably lower than the US > according to the WHO. > > > > > > > > > > larry > > > > > > > > > > On 1/6/06, G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Perhaps he respects Castro for standing up to US > > > Aggression and > > > > > > > still being able to reduce poverty, provide excellent > > > > > healthcare and > > > > > > > all the other things he has managed to do in the > face of US > > > > > > > pressure.Maybe THAT is what he respects. > > > > > > > > > > > > I can't believe you are touting the success of > Castro's Cuba. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So because you assume that based on US or Western Society > > > > > mankind is > > > > > > > Greedy, therefore the only solution is a system that > > > > > > > rewards,exemplifies and promotes Greed above all else? > > > > > > > > > > > > Um, in economics? Yes. The simple fact that you > > > apparently fail to > > > > > > grasp, is that capitalism works, and socialism doesn't. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What about the social services offered in Canada? Or > > > > > Western Germany > > > > > > > before the fall of the wall? > > > > > > > > > > > > What about them? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:190801 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
