I guess the major disconnect I have with this is that the NSA has been doing
this lawfully for decades, since their inception in 1949. Why start skirting
the law now. 

Because 8 got dumped? Get a better lawyer. This smacks of a HUGE ego or
something far more sinister.

Scott A. Stewart
ColdFusion Developer
 
GNSI
11820 Parklawn Dr
Rockville, MD 20852
(301) 770-9610  

-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Doom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 2:38 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Sen. Kennedy agrees

Scott Stewart wrote:
> Ok, 
> 
> I want to make sure I understand the legal issues
> 
> 1) In order to listen to an incoming call into the United States, you must
> either have a tap on the transmitting or the receiving end. You *might* be
> able to intercept a satellite call if you know it's coming.

Not quite right -- you must tap somewhere on the route between.  It 
doesn't have to be specifically at either end.

> 2) Since AlQaeda doesn't have a fixed address, and the chances of them
> grabbing a tapped phone in the middle east are pretty slim.
> 
> 3) The NSA (National Security Administration) must have taps on phones in
> the US.

Not necessarily.  There's lots of hearsay that they tap the transfer 
lines connecting the domestic networks to international networks.  Makes 
sense to me.

> 4) In order to tap a phone in the US, you *must* have a court ordered
> warrant, whether you are Joe Blow, beat cop in Podunk KY., the Chief of
the
> NSA, or the POTUS
> 
> 5) The POTUS and the NSA have a special court that sits around waiting to
> issue warrants for high clearance issues.
> 
> 6) Out of the 6000 warrants requested by Bush, 180 or so have been
modified
> and only 8 flat refused.
> 
> WTF is the problem? I'm all for doing whatever it takes to defend the US,
> but do it within the law. Just go to your special court and get one, he's
> batting 98% as it sits, why skirt the law over 8 out of 6000

Bingo.

--Ben




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