nick,
if it wasnt' a school sponsored event then the students wouldnt' need a
faculty advisor.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nick McClure" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: Enron executive commits suicide (Church and State)


> >The students could meet at a cafe, or a friends house.    The school
needs
> >to separate itself from religious events.
>
> It was about 200 students, it would be hard to coordinate getting that
many
> people to a cafe or a friends house.
>
> >The purpose of the neonazi group is to be discriminatory.  It should not
be
> >allowed.  But it doesnt' apply here because its not religious.
>
> You thank they aren't religious, part of being a neonazi is religion. Have
> you ever talked to one?
>
> >And my problem with "a teacher willing to sponsor it" - shouldnt' be up
to
> >the students - a school sanctioned group shouldn't have to find their own
> >faculty member, that should be provided by the school.
>
> No, teachers are paid to teach during the day, after school they go home,
> just like I do. The school doesn't provide people past the normal school
> day. Teachers would have to paid extra if it were part of their job to
> sponsor a club, much like coaches and tutors are paid extra. But these
> clubs are not school sponsored.
>
> >But the purpose of the school is not to teach any religion, nor favor
any,
> >thus they need to remove it completely.
>
> No, the purpose of the school is to be a place where members of the
> community come to learn, be with others of like interests,
>
> >The problem is that your thinking on this is very simplistic - you
believe
> >majority rules, too bad for the rest of us.  The problem with this
thinking
> >is that it excludes the rights of others if the majority wants it to.
Our
> >forefathers were smart enough to recognize this and ensure that all of us
> >should be equally able to get an education without the religion of
another
> >infringing on us.
>
> I think you are making it more complicated than it really is. A group of
> people meeting in the school. after school hours, and with no additional
> money from the school, should be allowed to meet at the school as long as
> what they are doing is not illegal.
>
> >A club is not an assembly unfortunate.  A club is a group sanctioned by
the
> >school.  A group of students are welcome to meet and discuss the bible at
> >lunch.  But the school is not permitted to have an official "lunch bible
> >study".
>
> It is not an official school sponsored event!
>
> >No, I am attempting to show you how having a teacher preach islam or
> >christianity to my jewish athiest children is an infringement on my
rights.
>
> No, it is not, It is only in infringement if it some way hinders you and
> your children from practicing what you believe. It is a waste of your tax
> dollar if a teacher is doing it in class and not teaching the specified
> curriculum. But it does not infringe on your rights. You do not have to
> right to keep others from talking, you have to right to talk.
> 
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