well it seems like you would know. However, he says this was the only unit. Only National Guard unit? I have no way to reconcile your statement with his. Bruce?
Dana On 10/14/07, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Are you serious? > > Everyone is searched for gang tattoos. > > Stupid guard commander probably hadn't been around active duty soldiers to > know that. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 8:30 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: while I am here > > here we go -- these guys, where they phony national guardsmen? > > http://www.abqtrib.com/news/2007/apr/23/guard-commander-blasts-army-brass/ > > N.M. National Guard commander calls for removal of top Army official > By Michael Gisick (Contact) > Monday, April 23, 2007 > > > RELATED STORIES > N.M. 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These links to blogs talking > about ABQTrib.com are automatically generated. Use them at your own > risk. > > STORY TOOLS > E-mail story > Comments > iPod friendly > Printer friendly > > > SHARE THIS STORY [?] > The commander of the New Mexico National Guard has called for > the removal of the Army's inspector general, saying the Army's > investigation into the partial strip search of a New Mexico unit in > Kuwait last year was a "joke." > > About 60 members of Task Force Cobra - a unit drawn from across New > Mexico - were forced to strip to their underwear last May as a > military criminal investigator searched them for gang tattoos. He > didn't find any, guard Adjutant General Kenny Montoya said Sunday. > > The search followed an unfounded claim by a Wisconsin soldier who said > he was showering near a Hispanic soldier when he noticed the soldier > was tattooed with Chicago-area gang signs, Montoya said. > > The Hispanic soldier was not from New Mexico, and Montoya said the > Army has never explained why a report about a non-New Mexican with > possible Chicago gang tattoos led the investigator to the New Mexico > unit. He said the search amounted to racial profiling. > > "I believe they were searched because of their last names," he said. > > Montoya said he learned of the search from members of the unit and > demanded the Army call off a second round of searches scheduled for > the next day, which it did. > > But he said a follow-up investigation by the military found the > criminal investigator had not acted illegally. Montoya said he'd been > unable to learn whether the agent had been disciplined. > > "The investigation - truly, it was a joke," he said. "The facts are > there. They've never answered why was this the only unit searched." > > Montoya said the Army tracked down the soldier who supposedly had the > gang tattoos only after the New Mexicans were searched. That soldier > didn't have gang tattoos, either, he said. > > He said the Army should have issued a formal apology to the New Mexico > soldiers, but hadn't, and said several "top leaders shouldn't be > there" as a result of the search, including Lt. Gen. Stanley Green, > the Army inspector general. > > "In the Army, if you apologize, it means you take responsibility for > something," Montoya said. "Somewhere along the line, general officers > forgot that's part of their responsibility." > > Task Force Cobra, which included about 190 guard members from various > units, provided security for military convoys in Iraq, Kuwait and > Qatar. It was deployed from November 2005 until November 2006, Maj. > Ken Nava, a guard spokesman said. > > The search occurred after the unit had returned to Kuwait from a stint in > Iraq. > > Montoya said he waited until now to go public with the search because > the 90-day window in which the task force remained under federal > orders has expired. > > But Montoya said his own career progression in the Army has been > effectively ended by his complaints over the incident. > > A colonel by rank, Montoya has served as adjutant general of the N.M. > National Guard since 2003. The adjutant general, which is not a rank, > is appointed by the governor. > > The Army blocked Montoya's promotion to brigadier general in 2004. He > said he was cleared of any wrongdoing in connection with a 2005 > flyover by Air National Guard F-16s at the grand opening of a Roswell > Toyota dealership, which coincided with Veteran's Day. > > Montoya said he authorized the flyover at the request of state Rep. > Dan Foley, a Roswell Republican, believing the flyover was for a > Veteran's Day celebration. > > Montoya said the Army Inspector General's Office aggressively pursued > its investigation of the flyover. > > "Instead of being over here looking for some flyover, they should have > been in Kuwait protecting New Mexico soldiers," he said. > > > > On 10/14/07, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'll take a closer look at these later but a fast once over gives me > > this -- that third link is talking about the 44-day dude. He is also > > front and center in the first one, but of the various other cases > > cited there, none made political statements; all were simply > > self-aggrandizing. Ditto all the people in your second link, which > > actually characterizes them as losers with poor self-esteem. > > > > I still think though, that even someone who never got further than > > stateside or Okinawa at least signed up, as opposed to claiming a > > pimple on the ass.... > > > > But oh let's say these women: > > > > http://www.alibi.com/index.php?story=12550&scn=news > > > > Are they phony Blue Star mothers? > > > > What about this guy: > > > > http://www.alibi.com/index.php?story=8301&scn=news > > > > Is he a phony soldier? > > > > The people this story mentions: > > > > http://www.alibi.com/index.php?story=10575&scn=feature > > > > http://www.alibi.com/index.php?story=11060&scn=news > > > > http://www.alibi.com/index.php?story=10661&scn=news > > > > are they phony soldiers too? Geez. I didn't even find the story I was > > looking for about National Guardmen (in Iraq) being force to strip to > > prove they didn't have gang tattoos. > > > > I think the people who worry about Jesse what's his name are doing > > exactly what the bushies want -- keeping their mind occupied with > > other things than the central question: what exactly is all of this > > supposed to be in aid of. What is this very heavy price being paid > > for? > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/14/07, Bruce Sorge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I Googled Phony Iraq Veterans, and came up with these: > > > > > > > http://www.vfw.org/resources/levelxmagazine/0611_Phony%20Iraq%20and%20Afghan > > > %20Vets.pdf > > > > > > > > > http://archive.southcoasttoday.com/daily/03-05/03-24-05/a02wn438.htm > > > > > > http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,274097,00.html > > > > > > There are more of course. > > > > > > You mean the Hillary misquotes? You did not start that. Someone else > did. > > > > > > > > > Bruce > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 3:54 PM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: Re: while I am here > > > > > > well note that this is a political humor column ;) > > > > > > But just for the sake of your argument: I googled "phony soldiers" and > > > found something about a guy who was kicked out after 44 days. One. If > > > there are others, my question is who are they? This is a serious > > > question -- remember I don't listen to or read the wild-eyed right. > > > > > > Another serious question: How is someone who *did* sign up any more a > > > phony soldier than somoene who could not serve because he had a pimple > > > on his ass? (sorry for the visual guys. I don't like thinking about > > > Rush's ass either.) > > > > > > Also what misquotes are we talking about? Was I in that thread? > > > > > > On 10/14/07, Bruce Sorge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Here is a silly question. You liberals were railing against the > Hillary > > > > quotes that were taken out of context in an earlier thread, but it is > OK > > > to > > > > post a quote taken out of context by a conservative? WTF? Why the > double > > > > standard? (I am referring to the first one, the Phony Soldiers quote). > If > > > > you listened for even a minute you would know that he was talking > about > > > the > > > > anti-war posers who claim to have fought in Iraq but actually some > never > > > > even graduated basic. > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/12/07, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Just for you neocons: > > > > > > > > > > Daniel Kurtzman's Political Humor Blog > > > > > From Daniel Kurtzman, > > > > > Your Guide to Political Humor. > > > > > FREE Newsletter. Sign Up Now! > > > > > The 5 Dumbest Rush Limbaugh Quotes of All Time > > > > > 1) "The phony soldiers." --on U.S. service members who support > > > > > withdrawal from Iraq > > > > > > > > > > 2) "He is exaggerating the effects of the disease. He's moving all > > > > > around and shaking and it's purely an act. ... This is really > > > > > shameless of Michael J. Fox. Either he didn't take his medication or > > > > > he's acting." --on an ad by Michael J. Fox endorsing Claire > McCaskill > > > > > for Senate for supporting embryonic stem cell research > > > > > > > > > > 3) "And don't forget, Sherrod Brown is black. There's a racial > > > > > component here, too. And now, the newspaper that I'm reading all > this > > > > > from is The New York Times, and they, of course, don't mention > that." > > > > > --on the 2006 Ohio Senate primary race involving then-Rep. Sherrod > > > > > Brown (D-OH), who is white > > > > > > > > > > 4) "This is no different than what happens at the Skull and Bones > > > > > initiation...I'm talking about people having a good time, these > > > > > people, you ever heard of emotional release? You ever heard of the > > > > > need to blow some steam off?" --on the Abu Ghraib prisoner abuse > > > > > scandal > > > > > > > > > > 5) In 1995: "Too many whites are getting away with drug use...Too > many > > > > > whites are getting away with drug sales...The answer is to go out > and > > > > > find the ones who are getting away with it, convict them, and send > > > > > them up the river, too." > > > > > > > > > > In 2003: "I am addicted to prescription pain medication." > > > > > > > > > > http://politicalhumor.about.com/b/a/257025.htm?nl=1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Enterprise web applications, build robust, secure scalable apps today - Try it now ColdFusion Today ColdFusion 8 beta - Build next generation apps Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:244257 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
