Kevin,

Thanks for the clarification.
And I apologize for the sarcastic tone of my post, sir.

-Ben


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 10:55 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Bush's Mid East Policy
> 
> 
> Ben,
> 
> I never said that I though that suicide bombing was 
> acceptable, in fact
> in several of my posts I said that I thought it was cowardly 
> and wrong.
> I support Israel for going in and cleaning out the groups.  I 
> just don't
> support all the foreign aid the US gives to Israel.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Braver, Ben [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 12:45 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Bush's Mid East Policy
> 
> This is interesting - we now appear to have a right-wing US 
> apologist on
> the
> list!
> 
> Oh boy, here comes another long controversial thread 
> degenerating into a
> flame war
> (or not...)
> 
> Kevin, I totally disagree with what, in my opinion, is a 
> strongly biased
> comment you made -
> > They hate us because our hi-tech weaponry is being used by Israeli 
> > soldiers to kill Palestinian men, women, and children.
>  
> The Arab world has hated us long before the Palestinian 
> Authority, long
> before the latest 18-month Intifada, long before Israeli military
> incursions
> into the West Bank.
> 
> And we're not talking about "subtle Saudi presence" and Bin 
> Laden taking
> offense - the entire Muslim world, who see the U.S. as "infidels"
> (non-Muslim) and have hated that for over 50 years we support the
> existence
> of the State of Israel, which nation they want to push into the sea.
> 
> You seem to forget that Israel has a stated policy of retaliating for
> terrorist attacks against civilians. And you don't seem to criticize
> somebody walking into a hotel or restaurant with pounds of explosive
> strapped to their body, and murder people.
> 
> How about a little fairness?
> 
> I don't like the Israeli military operations against the Palestinians,
> not
> one bit.
> However, Hamas and Islamic Jihad were recently quoted as 
> saying even if
> Arafat and the PA declared a cease-fire, they would *not* 
> honor it, and
> would continue the bombings.
> 
> So, for an effective peace with a legitimate Palestinian 
> "government" to
> occur, the illegitimate terrorist organizations must be stopped.
> 
> -Ben
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 8:20 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: Bush's Mid East Policy
> > 
> > 
> > So Howard tell me where this statement is wrong:
> > 
> > The Arab world doesn't hate us because of 
> > Hollywood. And they don't hate us because of our subtle Saudi 
> > presence. 
> > They hate us because our hi-tech weaponry is being used by Israeli 
> > soldiers to kill Palestinian men, women, and children.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Howard Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 10:18 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: Bush's Mid East Policy
> > 
> > 9/11 happened because there's a lot of stupid people running 
> > around who
> > will
> > buy any propaganda fed them by any megalomaniac. It had 
> nothing to do
> > with
> > the rightness or wrongness of American foreign policy and 
> > everything to
> > do
> > with one individual's lust for power.
> > 
> > H.
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 6:16 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: Bush's Mid East Policy
> > 
> > 
> > Our support of Israel is one of the reasons 9/11 happened.
> > 
> > And Bush is not a moron....I will give you that he is not the best
> > public speaker but he is getting better.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Todd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 6:23 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: Bush's Mid East Policy
> > 
> > > *shrug*
> > >
> > > Sometimes I think Bush is a moron.
> > 
> > Only sometimes? ;)
> > 
> > >
> > > The double speak coming from him is rather idiotic.
> > >
> > >
> > > Just the other day he was declaring that they understand 
> the Israeli
> > > reaction and support it.
> > >
> > > -Gel
> > 
> > Todd
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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