Daschle != Lobbyist.


On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> The campaign promise was to to set goals for no lobbyists, it was to not
> allow lobbyists.  There is a tremendous difference there.
>
> To make a statement like that and then appoint a lobbyist, even if its one
> out of a thousand, still breaks the campaign promise in my opinion.  If he
> knew he could not fulfill it, then maybe he should not have been so absolute
> when making the promise.
>
> Using you 'resolution' example.  I don't know anyone who would layout their
> entire exercise routine as a resolution.  They would most likely say "I am
> going to get in shape" or "I am going to lose weight", so skipping that
> Thursday workout is not going to be detrimental to the resolution.  However,
> the difference is in the details.  If they actually did layout their
> exercise program AS their resolution, then yes, skipping exercise that
> Thursday would, technically, break that resolution.
>
> If Obama had said, drastically reduce the number of lobbyists appointed, he
> would have been covered, and met that promise 100% so far (and most likely
> his entire presidency).  But he didn't, he said no lobbyists would be
> appointed.  And THAT promise he broke.
>
> On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Gruss Gott <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> > Bruce wrote:
>> >
>> > He hire a lobbyist and a defense contractor all rolled into one. How is
>> > that different that Haliburton? And he broke a campaign promise in doing
>> > that.
>> >
>>
>> That's one way to look at it and, no offense, I think it's the childish
>> way.
>>
>> 1.) He immediately set a BHAG: no lobbyists.  Campaign promise fulfilled.
>>
>> 2.) His SecDef told him the best guy for the job is X, and hopefully
>> explained why in great detail.
>>
>> 3.) He granted an exception.
>>
>> As Washington is absolutely overwhelmed with lobbyists since that was
>> old way, and since no president before him has ever even attempted
>> anything close to his BHAG, I'll grant the exception as 99% complete.
>>
>> Now if half of his appointees were lobbyists, I'll grant you the
>> point.  If 25% or 15% were I'd grant you the point.
>>
>> But 1???  or 2???  Come on.
>>
>> You're just picking knits to be religious.
>>
>>
>
> 

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