And apparently, me believing this makes me a 'good old boy' and that I think that anyone who would not report another firefighter as being drunk is a 'terrorist' or 'welfare cheat' - at least according to Dana.
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Scott Stroz<[email protected]> wrote: > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Ian Skinner<[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Scott Stroz wrote: >>> Ian, >>> >>> Is that so hard to understand? >> Know it is not hard to understand. But you are apparently incapable of >> looking beyond the hypothetical example and are assuming that all >> possible cultural bias must be equal invalid. > > Nope, I was merely trying to find the cultural bias in the specific > question posted by Dana where she said cultural bias existed. > >> >> You *asked* for an example of a question that *could* be culturally >> biased. And that is what you got. You did *NOT* ask for a question >> with a cultural bias that invalidated the question! There is not a one >> to one relationship. And apparently no matter how many times several of >> us have fucking said, "you are frigin right!", not turning in a person >> drunk on duty, even for cultural reasons, is bad -- you insist on >> continuing to bash *us* about it. > > I don;t recall anyone (except me) actually saying the it was wrong to > not turn in a person drunk on duty' - rather they only pointed out > that in some cultures that would be 'ratting' and as a result teh > question is culturally biased. > >> >> But being right, does not remove the potential cultural bias. And >> assuming all possible bias in the test is equally invalid is wrong. All >> we know is that analysis of the *results* seems to indicate there might >> be a cultural bias to the test. That bias may be valid as this example >> would be, or it may not. We do not know. Probably nobody know if the >> test was not evaluated to determine what the cultural biases might have >> been and if the questions could be reworded to get the same information >> without the cultural bias. > > Once again, I asked for examples of culturally biased questions as I > could not find any. Dana posted a very general (and great example by > the way) of one involving dividing up a pizza. Dana then also posted > examples of questions from a firefighters test (whether it was a real > test or not is unclear) where she said there was cultural bias. > > I never once argued that the test that started this whole thing was or > was not culturally biased, rather tried to figure out how ANY test > could be (which, again, Dana provided a good example). However, my > issue has been with the rationale used to claim cultural bias for the > specific question that Dana pointed out as being culturally biased. > Its almost like she (and others) are saying that if a 'culture' feels > its ok to break a specific law or rule, than it is 'culturally bias' > to ask a question related to the enforcement of that law or rule - to > which I say 'bullshit' > > -- > Scott Stroz > --------------- > The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who > are willing to work and give to those who would not. - Thomas > Jefferson > > http://xkcd.com/386/ > -- Scott Stroz --------------- The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. - Thomas Jefferson http://xk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:299362 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
