On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Ian Skinner<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Scott Stroz wrote:
>> Ian,
>>
>> Is that so hard to understand?
> Know it is not hard to understand.  But you are apparently incapable of
> looking beyond the hypothetical example and are assuming that all
> possible cultural bias must be equal invalid.

Nope, I was merely trying to find the cultural bias in the specific
question posted by Dana where she said cultural bias existed.

>
> You *asked* for an example of a question that *could* be culturally
> biased.  And that is what you got.  You did *NOT* ask for a question
> with a cultural bias that invalidated the question!  There is not a one
> to one relationship.  And apparently no matter how many times several of
> us have fucking said, "you are frigin right!", not turning in a person
> drunk on duty, even for cultural reasons, is bad -- you insist on
> continuing to bash *us* about it.

I don;t recall anyone (except me) actually saying the it was wrong to
not turn in a person drunk on duty' - rather they only pointed out
that in some cultures that would be 'ratting' and as a result teh
question is culturally biased.

>
> But being right, does not remove the potential cultural bias.  And
> assuming all possible bias in the test is equally invalid is wrong.  All
> we know is that analysis of the *results* seems to indicate there might
> be a cultural bias to the test.  That bias may be valid as this example
> would be, or it may not.  We do not know.  Probably nobody know if the
> test was not evaluated to determine what the cultural biases might have
> been and if the questions could be reworded to get the same information
> without the cultural bias.

Once again, I asked for examples of culturally biased questions as I
could not find any. Dana posted a very general (and great example by
the way) of one involving dividing up a pizza.  Dana then also posted
examples of questions from a firefighters test (whether it was a real
test or not is unclear) where she said there was cultural bias.

I never once argued that the test that started this whole thing was or
was not culturally biased, rather tried to figure out how ANY test
could be (which, again, Dana provided a good example). However, my
issue has been with the rationale used to claim cultural bias for the
specific question that Dana pointed out as being culturally biased.
Its almost like she (and others) are saying that if a 'culture' feels
its ok to break a specific law or rule, than it is 'culturally bias'
to ask a question related to the enforcement of that law or rule - to
which I say 'bullshit'

-- 
Scott Stroz
---------------
The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who
are willing to work and give to those who would not. - Thomas
Jefferson

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