And I am not saying you were wrong to do so. Of course, ignoring that allows you to exercise your indignation, so...
All I am saying is that there are places where doing that will get you sabotaged with extreme prejudice. Not that I agree with this happening. All I am saying is that the question assumes that the officer will do the proper thing. But hey. I am not invested in this. So sure. You are right. People who disagree with you are terrorists or welfare cheats or probably both. Now, I have work to do and can't be bothered with your crap any more. On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 9:24 PM, Scott Stroz<[email protected]> wrote: > > I am befuddled how the correct answer to question 19 would be > determined by the 'white middle class' and in case you got the > questions mixed up, I am befuddled how the answer to question 20 would > be determined by the 'white middle class'. > > As for question 20,I don;t give a rat's ass about culture. I worked > in Emergency Services for almost 20 years and, sadly, on more than one > occasion, reported a co-worker for showing up to work with alcohol on > their breath (can't say if they were actually drunk - but I did not > care). That has nothing to do with 'ratting out' someone and > everything to do with making sure that we were actually able to > protect the people we were paid to protect. If a 'culture' says > differently, than, sorry, they should not be in that job - and that > question would be a good one to use to eliminate someone from > consideration. > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 9:49 PM, Dana<[email protected]> wrote: >> >> welp... one of the groups I am talking about is the Irish. That's a >> pretty big group. Another is inner-city blacks and Hispanics and those >> too are pretty big groups. >> >> I guess I am having trouble understanding why a question's correct >> answer is determined by white middle-class culture, as the #19 >> question seems to be. >> >> Perhaps we want respect for authority in our lieutenant candidates, in >> which case the question, while embodying cultural norms, has a >> presumably legal rationale. >> >> It would not however seem to be a good measure of thinking outside the >> box (for instance). >> >> But hey, IANAL... that's just my own possibly flawed understanding. >> But I see people here getting upset when the answer they are sure is >> correct is questioned. >> >> That actually does seem a bit biased. >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 7:05 PM, Scott Stroz<[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Well, Cameron and I asked for examples of 'culturally biased' >>> questions and you posted the two examples we have been discussing. You >>> have to forgive a good old boy when he asks a question and assumes >>> what he gets in return was actually an answer to that question. >>> >>> So, again (and I will reword using your terms), if a question goes >>> against 'the cultural norm' why is it immediately the question and not >>> the 'culture' that has the problem? >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 8:57 PM, Dana<[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> You know -- I try hard not to pigeonhole you as a good old boy. >>>> Sometimes you make it hard. >>>> >>>> a) I did not say biased, you did. I said "contains a cultural norm." >>>> >>>> b) I also said that whether this is an issue depends on multiple factors. >>>> >>>> please explain what part of this is hard to understand. >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Scott Stroz<[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> OK..it would make the question culturally biased, how? >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 8:10 PM, Dana<[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> actually I didn't say racially I said culturally. And if people of >>>>>> different cultures think different answers are correct then there is a >>>>>> cultural norm in the question. >>>>>> >>>>>> Whether this is unfair depends. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Scott Stroz<[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Dana<[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> But there are also groups where "ratting" is always the wrong answer, >>>>>>>> and without ignoring the situation you can also take him home. I can >>>>>>>> think of several people I know who would do exactly that. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And that would make the question racially biased, how? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Scott Stroz >>>>>>> --------------- >>>>>>> The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who >>>>>>> are willing to work and give to those who would not. - Thomas >>>>>>> Jefferson >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://xkcd.com/386/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:299353 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
