When I used the word 'hero', it was because I have seen him called a 'hero' in some news articles.
I wonder how people would feel if Michael Vick drove his car off a bridge that resulted in the death of a woman and Ted Kennedy was into dog fighting. Honestly, I think the prison terms and public opinion towards both would be no different. I think what Vick did was despicable. I think what Kennedy did that night on the Dike Bridge was despicable. Yet, Vick does not seem worthy of a second chance to many people (from your comments, I think its safe to assume you are one of those people). I wonder why that is. On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 12:32 AM, Judah McAuley<[email protected]> wrote: > > I didn't call Ted Kennedy a hero, you did. I have never used the > phrase about him and doubt I ever will. I think he was a good guy and > I think he spent a lifetime trying to do good by people. That doesn't > make him a hero though, that's what I want from everyone. I called him > the American Hero because you were using it so dismissively. You were > trolling and so I threw it right back in your face. > > And yeah, if he had a different last night, I bet he probably would > have been treated differently. I was the first one to write in to this > list about Ted Kennedy and I specifically said he had some serious > flaws in his life and probably caused the death of a woman. Straight > up. > > Do I think that makes his decades of service any less important or > worthwhile? Nope. Do I think that puts him in the same league as a > punk who tortures animals for fun and profit and gets idolized for > ridiculous game? Nope. > > Ted Kennedy was no saint. I think he was a pretty good man though. You > want to talk about the pros and cons of his life and legacy, don't > start by trolling. > > Judah > > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:11 PM, Scott Stroz<[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hero? Really? Ted Kennedy is a 'hero'? I guess the bar for the 'hero' >> label has been lowered quite a bit. >> >> I will not try to take away anything from the man's service to the >> people of Massachusetts, but I think calling him a 'hero' is >> stretching it quite a bit. >> >> I love it, Teddy not only gets a pass for Chappaquiddick but is >> labeled a 'hero', but Mike Vick doesn't even seem to deserve a second >> chance or the opportunity to try and makes things better for others. >> >> I'd be willing to bet the money Vick makes as an athlete pales in >> comparison to the money Teddy made as a politician. I would also be >> willing to bet that if the man who drove that car off the Dike Bridge >> had a different last name, the outcome would have been quite a bit >> different. >> >> Sadly, I would have expected a bit more insight from you Judah. >> >> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:53 PM, Judah McAuley<[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Actually a lot of people think that a woman died in murky >>> circumstances in which an American Hero's judgment is certainly at >>> fault. And many of those people think that the person convicted of >>> breeding and torturing animals deliberately over a period of years for >>> profit and "sport" is more of a sick fuck than someone who fucked up >>> in his youth through negligence rather than malice. And some of those >>> people think that the American Hero spent the rest of his life trying >>> to make things better for every single person in the country and the >>> other dude is spending his time making a fortune playing with a ball. >>> >>> Yes, I'm guilty of rank hypocrisy. Got a problem with that do you Scott? >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Scott Stroz<[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> A lot of the same people who think a man convicted of dog fighting, >>>> who served a prison term, should not be able to get a job in his >>>> chosen profession also think that a man who killed a woman, and never >>>> went to jail, is an 'American Hero' >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Scott Stroz >>> >>> >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:303107 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
