On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote:
> > The coverage has been puke inducing, and so was the coverage of Reagan's > death ok so...we are on the same page kinda. I find it a little less annoying, because I do agree with some of the things they are saying, whereas it took a real effort to remain polite about Reagan, But I feel you. > .Please point out where I said I did not think it was a loss, because > must have missed it. > You didn't exactly. I extrapolated from the rather angry tone of your post. If you feel that there is one, fair enough then, carry on. > > On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Dana<[email protected]> wrote: > > > > well yeah some of the coverage must seem puke-inducing to you. Hang in > > there, it's almost over -- the funeral is today isn't it? But I am with > > Judah. The guy was nowhere near perfect, but! He is said to have been one > of > > the Senate's best negociators. One of the people most noted for eliciting > > consensus is no longer on the public scene. And you don't think that's a > > loss? > > > > On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 6:57 AM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> > >> When I used the word 'hero', it was because I have seen him called a > >> 'hero' in some news articles. > >> > >> I wonder how people would feel if Michael Vick drove his car off a > >> bridge that resulted in the death of a woman and Ted Kennedy was into > >> dog fighting. Honestly, I think the prison terms and public opinion > >> towards both would be no different. > >> > >> I think what Vick did was despicable. I think what Kennedy did that > >> night on the Dike Bridge was despicable. Yet, Vick does not seem > >> worthy of a second chance to many people (from your comments, I think > >> its safe to assume you are one of those people). I wonder why that > >> is. > >> > >> On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 12:32 AM, Judah McAuley<[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > I didn't call Ted Kennedy a hero, you did. I have never used the > >> > phrase about him and doubt I ever will. I think he was a good guy and > >> > I think he spent a lifetime trying to do good by people. That doesn't > >> > make him a hero though, that's what I want from everyone. I called him > >> > the American Hero because you were using it so dismissively. You were > >> > trolling and so I threw it right back in your face. > >> > > >> > And yeah, if he had a different last night, I bet he probably would > >> > have been treated differently. I was the first one to write in to this > >> > list about Ted Kennedy and I specifically said he had some serious > >> > flaws in his life and probably caused the death of a woman. Straight > >> > up. > >> > > >> > Do I think that makes his decades of service any less important or > >> > worthwhile? Nope. Do I think that puts him in the same league as a > >> > punk who tortures animals for fun and profit and gets idolized for > >> > ridiculous game? Nope. > >> > > >> > Ted Kennedy was no saint. I think he was a pretty good man though. You > >> > want to talk about the pros and cons of his life and legacy, don't > >> > start by trolling. > >> > > >> > Judah > >> > > >> > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:11 PM, Scott Stroz<[email protected]> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Hero? Really? Ted Kennedy is a 'hero'? I guess the bar for the > 'hero' > >> >> label has been lowered quite a bit. > >> >> > >> >> I will not try to take away anything from the man's service to the > >> >> people of Massachusetts, but I think calling him a 'hero' is > >> >> stretching it quite a bit. > >> >> > >> >> I love it, Teddy not only gets a pass for Chappaquiddick but is > >> >> labeled a 'hero', but Mike Vick doesn't even seem to deserve a second > >> >> chance or the opportunity to try and makes things better for others. > >> >> > >> >> I'd be willing to bet the money Vick makes as an athlete pales in > >> >> comparison to the money Teddy made as a politician. I would also be > >> >> willing to bet that if the man who drove that car off the Dike Bridge > >> >> had a different last name, the outcome would have been quite a bit > >> >> different. > >> >> > >> >> Sadly, I would have expected a bit more insight from you Judah. > >> >> > >> >> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:53 PM, Judah McAuley<[email protected] > > > >> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> Actually a lot of people think that a woman died in murky > >> >>> circumstances in which an American Hero's judgment is certainly at > >> >>> fault. And many of those people think that the person convicted of > >> >>> breeding and torturing animals deliberately over a period of years > for > >> >>> profit and "sport" is more of a sick fuck than someone who fucked up > >> >>> in his youth through negligence rather than malice. And some of > those > >> >>> people think that the American Hero spent the rest of his life > trying > >> >>> to make things better for every single person in the country and the > >> >>> other dude is spending his time making a fortune playing with a > ball. > >> >>> > >> >>> Yes, I'm guilty of rank hypocrisy. Got a problem with that do you > >> Scott? > >> >>> > >> >>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Scott Stroz<[email protected]> > wrote: > >> >>>> > >> >>>> A lot of the same people who think a man convicted of dog fighting, > >> >>>> who served a prison term, should not be able to get a job in his > >> >>>> chosen profession also think that a man who killed a woman, and > never > >> >>>> went to jail, is an 'American Hero' > >> >>>> > >> >>>> -- > >> >>>> Scott Stroz > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? 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