Maybe its not what happened, but that memories are short? Most people even up to their mid thirties probably have no idea what you're talking about re: Kennedy, but the Vick thing was very recent.
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 7:57 AM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote: > > When I used the word 'hero', it was because I have seen him called a > 'hero' in some news articles. > > I wonder how people would feel if Michael Vick drove his car off a > bridge that resulted in the death of a woman and Ted Kennedy was into > dog fighting. Honestly, I think the prison terms and public opinion > towards both would be no different. > > I think what Vick did was despicable. I think what Kennedy did that > night on the Dike Bridge was despicable. Yet, Vick does not seem > worthy of a second chance to many people (from your comments, I think > its safe to assume you are one of those people). I wonder why that > is. > > On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 12:32 AM, Judah McAuley<[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > I didn't call Ted Kennedy a hero, you did. I have never used the > > phrase about him and doubt I ever will. I think he was a good guy and > > I think he spent a lifetime trying to do good by people. That doesn't > > make him a hero though, that's what I want from everyone. I called him > > the American Hero because you were using it so dismissively. You were > > trolling and so I threw it right back in your face. > > > > And yeah, if he had a different last night, I bet he probably would > > have been treated differently. I was the first one to write in to this > > list about Ted Kennedy and I specifically said he had some serious > > flaws in his life and probably caused the death of a woman. Straight > > up. > > > > Do I think that makes his decades of service any less important or > > worthwhile? Nope. Do I think that puts him in the same league as a > > punk who tortures animals for fun and profit and gets idolized for > > ridiculous game? Nope. > > > > Ted Kennedy was no saint. I think he was a pretty good man though. You > > want to talk about the pros and cons of his life and legacy, don't > > start by trolling. > > > > Judah > > > > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:11 PM, Scott Stroz<[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> Hero? Really? Ted Kennedy is a 'hero'? I guess the bar for the 'hero' > >> label has been lowered quite a bit. > >> > >> I will not try to take away anything from the man's service to the > >> people of Massachusetts, but I think calling him a 'hero' is > >> stretching it quite a bit. > >> > >> I love it, Teddy not only gets a pass for Chappaquiddick but is > >> labeled a 'hero', but Mike Vick doesn't even seem to deserve a second > >> chance or the opportunity to try and makes things better for others. > >> > >> I'd be willing to bet the money Vick makes as an athlete pales in > >> comparison to the money Teddy made as a politician. I would also be > >> willing to bet that if the man who drove that car off the Dike Bridge > >> had a different last name, the outcome would have been quite a bit > >> different. > >> > >> Sadly, I would have expected a bit more insight from you Judah. > >> > >> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:53 PM, Judah McAuley<[email protected]> > wrote: > >>> > >>> Actually a lot of people think that a woman died in murky > >>> circumstances in which an American Hero's judgment is certainly at > >>> fault. And many of those people think that the person convicted of > >>> breeding and torturing animals deliberately over a period of years for > >>> profit and "sport" is more of a sick fuck than someone who fucked up > >>> in his youth through negligence rather than malice. And some of those > >>> people think that the American Hero spent the rest of his life trying > >>> to make things better for every single person in the country and the > >>> other dude is spending his time making a fortune playing with a ball. > >>> > >>> Yes, I'm guilty of rank hypocrisy. Got a problem with that do you > Scott? > >>> > >>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Scott Stroz<[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> A lot of the same people who think a man convicted of dog fighting, > >>>> who served a prison term, should not be able to get a job in his > >>>> chosen profession also think that a man who killed a woman, and never > >>>> went to jail, is an 'American Hero' > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Scott Stroz > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:303108 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
