And they did this because Bush said if the Democrats win so do the terrorists? Links?
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 8:52 AM, Dana <[email protected]> wrote: > > there were a lot of people who enlisted because they thought it would help > keep their country safe, that it was threatened by Iraq and that defeating > Iraq would make the US safe. > > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 6:46 AM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> It think its quite easy. we need to educate voters so they know when >> politicians are lying. >> >> Now, that may seem like a daunting task, but there is one sure fire >> way to know when a politician is lying: their lips are moving. >> >> Seriously, though, I am not talking about the normal political shit. I >> am talking about stuff like this specific issue, where it should be >> obvious to anyone with a high school education that it was hyperbole. >> >> There were lot of people who enlisted because Bush said if the >> Democrats get elected the terrorists win? Forgive me, but, links? >> >> And Michael, you are correct it would be a small voter base. But then >> again, maybe it should only count for people who could not see through >> my own hyperbole >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 8:39 AM, Dana <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > maybe but there are a lot of them out there. It was probably the most >> > frequent response. Hard to argue you're a democracy when the criterion >> for >> > citizenship is cynicism and a selective memory. Some people really do >> > believe what the government tells them, Scott. Look at all the people who >> > enlisted. Should they lose their right to vote?? Maybe just maybe we >> should >> > figure out a way to weed the BSers out of the political process instead. >> If >> > you have suggestions on that I am all ears. >> > >> > >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 6:32 AM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> What? >> >> >> >> Are you trying to say I should not believe that I was not one of the >> >> people whose lives were 'threatened' if I did not vote for Bush, or >> >> that I shouldn't believe that I didn't believe it? >> >> >> >> It was political posturing and pure, unadulterated bullshit. Anyone >> >> who cannot see through that should probably have their right to vote >> >> revoked. >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 8:24 AM, Dana <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > ok well. As someone who was doing voter outreach in the 2004 election >> I >> >> can >> >> > assure you that lots of people read it that way. If you want to >> believe >> >> that >> >> > you weren't one of them, be my guest. >> >> > >> >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 6:20 AM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> That is not what you said. You said people's lives were threatened >> if >> >> >> they did not vote for Bush. I do not take that statement as >> >> >> 'threatening my life'. >> >> >> >> >> >> See, I took it for what it was, a political speech, given by a >> >> >> politician. Which means, there is maybe, and this is stretching it, >> >> >> 5% truth and 95% hyperbole. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 8:12 AM, Dana <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> > "the terrorists win"??? That doesn't sound scary and probably >> lethal >> >> >> > to you? >> >> >> > >> >> >> > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 6:09 AM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I don't see where it says I would die if I did not vote for Bush >> >> >> >> (which is what you claimed happened in the other thread). :D >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 8:06 AM, Dana <[email protected]> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Bush, Cheney tie Dem win to terrorists / GOP leaders turn up the >> >> >> rhetoric >> >> >> >> to >> >> >> >> > stoke voter base >> >> >> >> > Article:Bush, Cheney tie Dem win to terrorists / GOP leaders >> >> >> >> > tu:/c/a/2006/10/31/MNG1GM2U2M1.DTL >> >> >> >> > Article:Bush, Cheney tie Dem win to terrorists / GOP leaders >> >> >> >> > tu:/c/a/2006/10/31/MNG1GM2U2M1.DTL >> >> >> >> > advertisement | your ad here <http://www.sfgate.com/mediakit/ >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > [image: SFGate] </> Back to >> >> >> >> > Article</cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/10/31/MNG1GM2U2M1.DTL> >> >> >> >> > [image: SFGate] >> >> >> >> > Bush, Cheney tie Dem win to terrorists GOP leaders turn up the >> >> >> rhetoric >> >> >> >> to >> >> >> >> > stoke voter base >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Michael Abramowitz, Washington Post >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Tuesday, October 31, 2006 >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > *(10-31) 04:00 PDT Sugar Land, Texas* -- President Bush said >> >> >> terrorists >> >> >> >> will >> >> >> >> > win if Democrats win and impose their policies on Iraq, as he >> and >> >> Vice >> >> >> >> > President Dick Cheney escalated their rhetoric Monday in an >> effort >> >> to >> >> >> >> turn >> >> >> >> > out Republican voters in next week's midterm elections. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Faced with potential GOP defeat in both the House and Senate, >> Bush >> >> and >> >> >> >> > Cheney aimed to avert that by convincing voters they cannot risk >> >> >> giving >> >> >> >> the >> >> >> >> > opposition party any power in Washington. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > "However they put it, the Democrat approach in Iraq comes down >> to >> >> >> this: >> >> >> >> The >> >> >> >> > terrorists win and America loses," Bush told a raucous crowd of >> >> some >> >> >> >> 5,000 >> >> >> >> > GOP partisans packed in the arena at an earlier stop at Georgia >> >> >> Southern >> >> >> >> > University in Statesboro, Ga. "That's what's at stake in this >> >> >> election. >> >> >> >> The >> >> >> >> > Democrat goal is to get out of Iraq. The Republican goal is to >> win >> >> in >> >> >> >> Iraq." >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Democrats reacted sharply to the latest White House attacks. >> Senate >> >> >> >> Minority >> >> >> >> > Leader Harry Reid of Nevada said Bush "resorted to the same >> tired >> >> old >> >> >> >> > partisan attacks in a desperate attempt to hold onto power." >> House >> >> >> >> Minority >> >> >> >> > Leader Nancy Pelosi of San Francisco said Bush is looking to >> retain >> >> a >> >> >> >> > "rubber-stamp Republican Congress that has done nothing to >> change >> >> our >> >> >> >> failed >> >> >> >> > Iraq policy." >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Cheney, meanwhile, said in an interview with Fox News that he >> >> believed >> >> >> >> > insurgents in Iraq are timing their attacks to influence the >> >> American >> >> >> >> > elections. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > "It's my belief that they're very sensitive of the fact that >> we've >> >> got >> >> >> an >> >> >> >> > election scheduled," he said. Cheney said the insurgents believe >> >> "they >> >> >> >> can >> >> >> >> > break the will of the American people. ... That's what they're >> >> trying >> >> >> to >> >> >> >> > do." >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > The increasingly combative tone from the White House signaled a >> >> >> >> coordinated >> >> >> >> > GOP effort to use every channel to remind conservatives why they >> >> >> should >> >> >> >> turn >> >> >> >> > out to vote, despite what many say is their disenchantment with >> the >> >> >> Mark >> >> >> >> > Foley page scandal, anger over escalating federal spending and >> >> anxiety >> >> >> >> over >> >> >> >> > the course of the Iraq war. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > The president's travel schedule in the final week of the >> campaign >> >> is a >> >> >> >> stark >> >> >> >> > reminder of his political weakness in many parts of the country >> -- >> >> and >> >> >> in >> >> >> >> > many swing districts -- where it is too dangerous for GOP >> >> candidates >> >> >> to >> >> >> >> be >> >> >> >> > seen with Bush. After his rally in Georgia on Monday, Bush flew >> to >> >> >> Sugar >> >> >> >> > Land to stump for the GOP candidate trying to succeed former >> House >> >> >> >> Majority >> >> >> >> > Leader Tom DeLay, who won his seat by 14 points two years ago >> >> before >> >> >> >> > resigning his seat amid the Jack Abramoff lobbying scandal. >> There >> >> was >> >> >> no >> >> >> >> > sign of the man who once relished his Capitol Hill reputation as >> >> "The >> >> >> >> > Hammer" on Monday's visit. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > "The fact that Republicans are working hard to hold onto one of >> the >> >> >> most >> >> >> >> > Republican districts in the country -- that tells you the depth >> of >> >> the >> >> >> >> > Republican struggles around the country," said Amy Walter, who >> >> tracks >> >> >> >> House >> >> >> >> > races for the nonpartisan Cook Political Report. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > White House aides disputed this characterization, saying the >> Sugar >> >> >> Land >> >> >> >> race >> >> >> >> > is a special case since DeLay resigned too late for the courts >> to >> >> >> allow >> >> >> >> the >> >> >> >> > GOP to replace him on the ballot. Instead, Republicans are >> >> promoting >> >> >> >> Shelley >> >> >> >> > Sekula Gibbs, a Houston city councilwoman and dermatologist, as >> a >> >> >> >> write-in >> >> >> >> > candidate. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > The crowd at Georgia Southern seemed to respond most >> >> enthusiastically >> >> >> to >> >> >> >> > Bush's most conservative lines, roaring after Bush criticized >> last >> >> >> week's >> >> >> >> > ruling from the New Jersey Supreme Court that gay couples are >> >> entitled >> >> >> to >> >> >> >> > the same rights as heterosexual couples. Bush said the ruling >> >> "raises >> >> >> >> doubt >> >> >> >> > about the institution of marriage." >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > "We believe that marriage is a union between a man and a woman >> and >> >> >> should >> >> >> >> be >> >> >> >> > defended," Bush shouted. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/10/31/MNG1GM2U2M1.DTL >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > This article appeared on page *A - 5* of the San Francisco >> >> Chronicle >> >> >> >> > © 2006 Hearst Communications Inc. </chronicle/info/copyright/> >> | >> >> >> Privacy >> >> >> >> > Policy </pages/privacy/> | Feedback </feedback/> | RSS Feeds >> >> </rss/> | >> >> >> >> > FAQ</chronicle/faq.shtml>| Site >> >> >> >> > Index </index/> | Contact </staff/> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/10/31/MNG1GM2U2M1.DTL&type=printable >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? 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