Michael Dinowitz wrote:
>>
>>Was it? I thought it was left by the British as "mandate area" (whatever 
>>that may be) in 1948, just as the Gaza strip was.
> 
> Of the british mandate, 80% went to become jordan which has a massive palestinian 
>population. Gaza was part of that 20%.

But the Gaza strip was occupied on June 5, 1967 by Israel, even before 
Jordan entered the conflict between Egypt and Israel. Right?


>>But regardless of that, don't the people that live there have certain 
>>rights, such as the right to choose their representation for a sovereign 
>>government?
> 
> Yes they do, but if they are attacking the citizens of another location, that other 
>location has the right to stop the attacks.

But with exercising that right come certain responsibilities.


> Again, I say that Israel would give it over to the palestinians if they would just 
>live up to their signed agreements and stop the attacks.

You are assuming that the people that sign the agreements are the same 
people that do the attacks, or at the very least are in a position to 
stop those attacks. I doubt that, considering that not even Israel is in 
a position to stop those attacks.

BTW, transscripts of the talks that took place in Camp David when 
Clinton tried his last shot at being famous for something else as he is 
now suggest otherwise. There are additional issues, such as the faith of 
East Jerusalem, especially certain places of religious interest, and "no 
mans land".


>>>Again, when we tried to give it back all we got was the current oslo war. 
>>
>>All? Or just the part where there were no concentrations of settlements 
>>anyway?
> 
> All as in all we got was the war, not all as in all the territory. No where does it 
>say we have to give it all back.

That just depends on who you are asking.

Isn't occupying a certain area, even with the best intentions, an 
invitation for violence against you? You may have the right to occupy a 
certain territory, but if you don't like the reaction, maybe it is wiser 
  not to do so.


>>The problem is that Israel only occupied the territories and never made 
>>the next obvious step. Annexate the territories, give everybody who 
>>lives there citizenship and handle it internally. Israel has my blessing.
> 
> And if they did that and the attacks still went on, what then?

Handle it the same way as the US handled the Oklahoma bombing.

Jochem

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