I gotcha, but knew others wouldn't, ergo my response :) On Jan 10, 2013 2:05 PM, "Bruce Sorge" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Ok, I was not being totally serious about this. We use machine guns for > suppression and creating mass casualties, not spray and pray. That is what > haj does, not us. I was just trying to be a little funny but obviously > failed. > > Sent from my iPhone 4S. > > On Jan 10, 2013, at 1:43 PM, "Larry C. Lyons" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > My own opinion is that I've never liked the spray and pray approach I > > experience when on exercise with the US military (this is when I was > > with the Canadian Forces - at NATO Reforger and Able Archer). Our own > > emphasis was on "musketry" and aimed suppression fire. A very > > different approach. > > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Bruce Sorge <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> That was more if a rhetorical statement and was not pointed at you Tim. > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone 4S. > >> > >> On Jan 10, 2013, at 1:01 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> I know this man, I speant a couple of years in weapons squads in the > 82nd > >>> and the 29th. Yes the crew served weapons are our most casualty > producing > >>> weapons. That doesn't really pertain to our current discussion > however as > >>> legal machine guns have been used in exactly 1 crime since the > inception of > >>> the NFA in the 30s. Beofre that you could mail order them. > >>> On Jan 10, 2013 12:42 PM, "Bruce Sorge" <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>>> > >>>> That's why we have machine guns. To spray the enemy and keep their > heads > >>>> down. > >>>> > >>>> Sent from my iPhone 4S. > >>>> > >>>> On Jan 10, 2013, at 12:17 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> I'm saying that yes, a capable man with a 10 shot bolt gun with > optics > >>>> can > >>>>> do far more damage than someone with a 30 round semi-auto. Trained > >>>> people > >>>>> don't spray and pray, we fire single aimed shots at point targets, > and > >>>> with > >>>>> a bolt action 300 win mag you can tap people near a mile away, > through > >>>>> armor. Something you certainly could never do with that AR. > >>>>> On Jan 10, 2013 12:10 PM, "Larry C. Lyons" <[email protected]> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> So you're telling me that someone with a single shot bolt action > rifle > >>>>>> can do as much damage as an AR-15. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Trained rifleman late 19th century using such a rifle (Martini-Henry > >>>>>> Rifle for instance) could fire around 10-20 rounds per minute on a > >>>>>> good day. A bushmaster in the hands of someone with minimal training > >>>>>> is anywhere from 45 to 120 rounds per minute. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> BTW that chart I noted previously showed that even though Canadian > >>>>>> firearms laws became increasingly more restrictive, the homicide > rate > >>>>>> by other means remained relatively stable or even declined. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 11:46 AM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> It's funny, Larry mentioned several failed states and genocides > >>>> earlier. > >>>>>>> However if you look to sme of the very incidents he mentions you > see it > >>>>>> is > >>>>>>> a person with a motive that kills, not the gun. How many hundreds > of > >>>>>>> thousands, even millions, were killed, tortured and disfigured with > >>>>>>> machetes? How many would still be alive today if they had an AK > under > >>>>>> the > >>>>>>> bed and a pistol on the night stand? > >>>>>>> On Jan 10, 2013 11:42 AM, "Jerry Barnes" <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> "Gun control works if it's area wide.....country wide......it > hasn't > >>>>>>>> worked in > >>>>>>>> America because it's isolated." > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Maybe we should mimic Mexico's gun control program. It's > nationwide > >>>> and > >>>>>>>> very restrictive. Works great. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> J > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> - > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to > achieve > >>>> the > >>>>>>>> national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a > >>>>>> civilian > >>>>>>>> national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, > just > >>>> as > >>>>>>>> well-funded. - Barack Obama > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:359943 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
