He s trained...remember how sucky you were the first time you picked one up?
I couldn't hit the broad side of a bard the first time I used an M-60.
After I was trained, I got pretty good with it.  If I picked one up
today...I probably couldn't hit the broad side of a barn again.

-----Original Message-----
From: LRS Scout [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 12:01 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Possible Executive Action - Gun Control


I know this man, I speant a couple of years in weapons squads in the 82nd
and the 29th.  Yes the crew served weapons are our most casualty producing
weapons.  That doesn't really pertain to our current discussion however as
legal machine guns have been used in exactly 1 crime since the inception of
the NFA in the 30s.  Beofre that you could mail order them.
On Jan 10, 2013 12:42 PM, "Bruce Sorge" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> That's why we have machine guns. To spray the enemy and keep their 
> heads down.
>
> Sent from my iPhone 4S.
>
> On Jan 10, 2013, at 12:17 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> > I'm saying that yes, a capable man with a 10 shot bolt gun with 
> > optics
> can
> > do far more damage than someone with a 30 round semi-auto.  Trained
> people
> > don't spray and pray, we fire single aimed shots at point targets, 
> > and
> with
> > a bolt action 300 win mag you can tap people near a mile away, 
> > through armor.  Something you certainly could never do with that AR.
> > On Jan 10, 2013 12:10 PM, "Larry C. Lyons" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> So you're telling me that someone with a single shot bolt action 
> >> rifle can do as much damage as an AR-15.
> >>
> >> Trained rifleman late 19th century using such a rifle 
> >> (Martini-Henry Rifle for instance) could fire around 10-20 rounds 
> >> per minute on a good day. A bushmaster in the hands of someone with 
> >> minimal training is anywhere from 45 to 120 rounds per minute.
> >>
> >> BTW that chart I noted previously showed that even though Canadian 
> >> firearms laws became increasingly more restrictive, the homicide 
> >> rate by other means remained relatively stable or even declined.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 11:46 AM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> It's funny, Larry mentioned several failed states and genocides
> earlier.
> >>> However if you look to sme of the very incidents he mentions you 
> >>> see it
> >> is
> >>> a person with a motive that kills, not the gun.  How many hundreds 
> >>> of thousands, even millions, were killed, tortured and disfigured 
> >>> with machetes?  How many would still be alive today if they had an 
> >>> AK under
> >> the
> >>> bed and a pistol on the night stand?
> >>> On Jan 10, 2013 11:42 AM, "Jerry Barnes" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> "Gun control works if it's area wide.....country wide......it 
> >>>> hasn't worked in America because it's isolated."
> >>>>
> >>>> Maybe we should mimic Mexico's gun control program.  It's 
> >>>> nationwide
> and
> >>>> very restrictive.  Works great.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> J
> >>>>
> >>>> -
> >>>>
> >>>> We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to 
> >>>> achieve
> the
> >>>> national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a
> >> civilian
> >>>> national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, 
> >>>> just
> as
> >>>> well-funded. - Barack Obama
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
> 



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