I'd argue that you are wrong. I think Larry would agree with me. I think
there should be mandatory military service.  I think that would solve a lot
of issues in our society.

-----Original Message-----
From: LRS Scout [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 12:47 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: RE: Latest News on the The Affordable Care Act


I'd argue, and from personal experience, that Canada's health care system is
not as good or as responsive as our own.

I have an idea, you want 100% health care.  Bring back mandetory
conscription across the board.
On Feb 14, 2013 1:43 PM, "Eric Roberts" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
> That is very untrue G.  You can go to the ER, but the ER dose not 
> provide meds if you can't afford them because you have no insurance 
> and have to pay full price.  ER's just treat the immediate issue.  If 
> you have a chronic illness and have no insurance, you are fucked.  Not 
> all areas have charity health care systems.  People with money don't 
> die because they can't afford healthcare...Period.  Healthcare systems 
> in Canada, the UK, Scandanavia, and Germany have shown to be very 
> effective.  If you think people in the insurance industry care if you 
> live or die, you are smoking some good shit.
> They have whole departments that dedicated to finding ways to deny 
> claims so you can't afford to get treatment so they can make a higher 
> profit.  That is fact...not hyperbole.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: GMoney [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 8:27 AM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Latest News on the The Affordable Care Act
>
>
> A lot of Americans WITH money die.
>
> This scenario often painted of Americans lying outside hospital doors 
> and dying on their doorsteps because they've been turned away, is a 
> bit of a hyperbole. Yes, the question of adequate health care for low 
> or no income citizens is a problem....it's a problem 
> EVERYWHERE.....but the American system is no more or less devoid of 
> it's moral imperative to care for it's citizens than any other 
> country. There is no big bad group of people in this country who just 
> want to see poor people die and go away.
>
> There are genuine differences in ideas about the best way to get the 
> best care to the most amount of people for the least amount of cost. 
> People who oppose the Affordable Care Act are NOT uncaring 
> monsters.....they are people with genuine concerns...and there are a 
> LOT of them.
>
> History has shown us that giving everything to everyone simply doesn't 
> work...conversely, relying solely on "the market" to take adequate 
> care of everyone, is equally flawed because you just can't view people 
> as "commodities".
>
> Statements like "yeah, it really sucks that you still die in America 
> if you don't have enough money" may get you high fives as your next 
> vegan lunch date, but it's somewhat petty and myopicw hen you consider the
reality.
>
> On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 7:04 AM, Vivec <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> > Yeah. It really sucks that you still die in America if you don't 
> > have enough money.
> >
> > The US should look at the Scandinavian states and try to emulate them.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> 



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