BTW the German system is a public private mix that is similar to ObamaCare to some extent at least. It works very well.
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Eric Roberts <[email protected]> wrote: > > That is very untrue G. You can go to the ER, but the ER dose not provide > meds if you can't afford them because you have no insurance and have to pay > full price. ER's just treat the immediate issue. If you have a chronic > illness and have no insurance, you are fucked. Not all areas have charity > health care systems. People with money don't die because they can't afford > healthcare...Period. Healthcare systems in Canada, the UK, Scandanavia, and > Germany have shown to be very effective. If you think people in the > insurance industry care if you live or die, you are smoking some good shit. > They have whole departments that dedicated to finding ways to deny claims so > you can't afford to get treatment so they can make a higher profit. That is > fact...not hyperbole. > > -----Original Message----- > From: GMoney [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 8:27 AM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Latest News on the The Affordable Care Act > > > A lot of Americans WITH money die. > > This scenario often painted of Americans lying outside hospital doors and > dying on their doorsteps because they've been turned away, is a bit of a > hyperbole. Yes, the question of adequate health care for low or no income > citizens is a problem....it's a problem EVERYWHERE.....but the American > system is no more or less devoid of it's moral imperative to care for it's > citizens than any other country. There is no big bad group of people in this > country who just want to see poor people die and go away. > > There are genuine differences in ideas about the best way to get the best > care to the most amount of people for the least amount of cost. People who > oppose the Affordable Care Act are NOT uncaring monsters.....they are people > with genuine concerns...and there are a LOT of them. > > History has shown us that giving everything to everyone simply doesn't > work...conversely, relying solely on "the market" to take adequate care of > everyone, is equally flawed because you just can't view people as > "commodities". > > Statements like "yeah, it really sucks that you still die in America if you > don't have enough money" may get you high fives as your next vegan lunch > date, but it's somewhat petty and myopicw hen you consider the reality. > > On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 7:04 AM, Vivec <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> Yeah. It really sucks that you still die in America if you don't have >> enough money. >> >> The US should look at the Scandinavian states and try to emulate them. >> >> >> > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:361181 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
