Nice story, any citations for that? Its nice making all those assertions
(you'd think it was a TDD exercise) but you still have to back them up Sam.


On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 12:04 AM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> I will try again. The left leaning polls over sampled dems by using the
> high turnout of dems from 2008. That was rare and unlikely. The dems
> actually showed up in lower numbers. However, since so few R's voted the
> polls were right in the end. This is not due to them being correct, just
> dumb luck that Romney would kill his base in the end. Between that and the
> polls telling us Obam won, why bother voting?
> On Jun 5, 2013 11:46 PM, "Scott Stroz" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> > Let me see if I got this right: the polls that correctly predicted the
> > President winning were 'left leaning', but the one poll that incorrectly
> > predicted Gov. Romney winning was accurate?
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > But, the polls had 11+ D and more independents than normal. This was to
> > > mimic the high D turnout in 2008 which wasn't likely. However, the
> > > extremely low R turnout gave them the correct numbers after all.
> > >
> > > I believe that's because Romney told voters he was the same as Obama in
> > the
> > > last debate.
> > >
> > > .
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Judah McAuley <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > CNN exit polls from 2012:
> > > > http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/results/race/president
> > > >
> > > > Voting break down by party:
> > > >
> > > > Democrats: 38%
> > > > Republicans: 32%
> > > > Independents: 29%
> > > >
> > > > So, yes, a 6% advantage in D vs R voting.
> > > >
> > > > And then Registered Voters via Pew:
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.people-press.org/2012/08/23/a-closer-look-at-the-parties-in-2012/
> > > >
> > > > D: 35%
> > > > R: 28%
> > > > I: 33%
> > > >
> > > > If you push Independents to get which way they would lean in voting
> (D
> > or
> > > > R):
> > > >
> > > > D: 48%
> > > > R: 43%
> > > >
> > > > So, a pretty consistent 5 to 7 percent margin no matter how you slice
> > it.
> > > > Hence why the (good) polls included more Democrat and
> Democrat-leaning
> > > > responses in their sample in order to match demographics.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Judah
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 6:14 AM, GMoney <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 8:09 AM, Larry C. Lyons <
> > [email protected]
> > > > > >wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Very large scale surveys and the census have
> > > > > > indicated that there are more Democratic than Republican voters.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I was a little bit surprised to hear that. Larry, are you talking
> > about
> > > > > REGISTERED voters, or people who actually cast votes?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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