come on, you can't be arguing over this and not know anything about it can you?
Yeah you can, nevermind. . On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected]>wrote: > > Nice story, any citations for that? Its nice making all those assertions > (you'd think it was a TDD exercise) but you still have to back them up Sam. > > > On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 12:04 AM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I will try again. The left leaning polls over sampled dems by using the > > high turnout of dems from 2008. That was rare and unlikely. The dems > > actually showed up in lower numbers. However, since so few R's voted the > > polls were right in the end. This is not due to them being correct, just > > dumb luck that Romney would kill his base in the end. Between that and > the > > polls telling us Obam won, why bother voting? > > On Jun 5, 2013 11:46 PM, "Scott Stroz" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Let me see if I got this right: the polls that correctly predicted the > > > President winning were 'left leaning', but the one poll that > incorrectly > > > predicted Gov. Romney winning was accurate? > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > But, the polls had 11+ D and more independents than normal. This was > to > > > > mimic the high D turnout in 2008 which wasn't likely. However, the > > > > extremely low R turnout gave them the correct numbers after all. > > > > > > > > I believe that's because Romney told voters he was the same as Obama > in > > > the > > > > last debate. > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Judah McAuley <[email protected] > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CNN exit polls from 2012: > > > > > http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/results/race/president > > > > > > > > > > Voting break down by party: > > > > > > > > > > Democrats: 38% > > > > > Republicans: 32% > > > > > Independents: 29% > > > > > > > > > > So, yes, a 6% advantage in D vs R voting. > > > > > > > > > > And then Registered Voters via Pew: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.people-press.org/2012/08/23/a-closer-look-at-the-parties-in-2012/ > > > > > > > > > > D: 35% > > > > > R: 28% > > > > > I: 33% > > > > > > > > > > If you push Independents to get which way they would lean in voting > > (D > > > or > > > > > R): > > > > > > > > > > D: 48% > > > > > R: 43% > > > > > > > > > > So, a pretty consistent 5 to 7 percent margin no matter how you > slice > > > it. > > > > > Hence why the (good) polls included more Democrat and > > Democrat-leaning > > > > > responses in their sample in order to match demographics. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > Judah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 6:14 AM, GMoney <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 8:09 AM, Larry C. Lyons < > > > [email protected] > > > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Very large scale surveys and the census have > > > > > > > indicated that there are more Democratic than Republican > voters. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was a little bit surprised to hear that. Larry, are you talking > > > about > > > > > > REGISTERED voters, or people who actually cast votes? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:364270 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
