On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 8:08 PM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 6:00 PM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> > > To use a word. In reality, to change the definition of a word. Check
> all
> > > the dictionaries.
> >
> >
> > Yes, to use a word. But, not just any word, a word that represents a
> loving
> > dedication to one another. A word that says, I want this person in my
> life
> > for the rest of my life. A word that is supposed to demonstrate a life
> long
> > commitment to each other. Funny, Kim Kardashian say say she got 'married'
> > even though it only lasted a month, but a gay couple who have been
> together
> > for decades, cannot. That is what I and others are saying.
> >
> > Civil Union doesn't mean all that? Again, check the dictionaries.
>

No. It doesn't. Why are you so against gay people using the word marriage?

>
>
> > > I realize there are two sides to this discussion (more than 2
> probably).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > But you don't respect the other side. Have I insulted anyone because
> the
> > > support same-sex marriage? Has anyone?
> > >
> >
> > Yes, you have. You insulted me multiple times in this thread alone. Have
> I
> > insulted anyone? If so, it was purely unintentional.
> >
>
> Not because you support same-sex, but because you seem to detest people
> that don't agree with you. You did mentioned how you've learned as to imply
> others aren't there yet. It's insulting.
>

I don't detest people that don't agree with me (some projection there,
maybe?) . I never said I 'learned', I said I changed my views. Very
important distinction.

>
>
> >
> > I never said it did. Nor should the use of a word be banned by the
> > constitution, don't you think?
> >
> >
> That's like saying instead of giving black equal rights we should just call
> them white. That's not a solution, the real solution is to make them equal,
> not redefine a word.
>

No. Your 'solution ' of 'marriage' for heterosexuals and  'civil unions'
for homosexuals is akin to schools for whites and schools for blacks. mine
is putting all races into one school. See the difference?

Honestly, when it comes to the government's meaning of 'marriage' - which
again is essentially a civil contract - I don't care what it is called, but
it should be the same name, and same benefits,  for heterosexual and
homosexual couples. Leave marriage to the churches, synagogues, mosques,
ect.

>
> > > You keep dodging the question. How is this NOT discrimination?
> >
>
> You still have not answered this question. is it because you know if you
> > do, you will sound like a homophobic asshole like Cam mentioned earlier?
> >
> >
> >
> I answered it like three times. You just ignore the answer and keep asking
> the question. I thought you said you folks didn't insult people against
> same-sex marriage. The fact that you think there's no answer without being
> a homophobic asshole is the entire point. of this argument. You folks need
> to stop being haters. It's always agree with me or else with you non-lefty
> lefties. But that's ok, get off hating people because you assume they're
> haters. The irony.
>
>
But you have not answered the question. Not even close. You refuse to
answer, but won't speculate as to why you refuse to answer as that would be
unfair to you.

I never said (or even implied) that there is no answer to that question
without being a homophobic asshole. And, until we hear your answer, we
won't know if that is how your answer sounds.

You seem to use the word 'hate' pretty freely - and with increasing
frequency lately. I have tried to be very careful in how I worded my
responses and I don't really think a reasonable person would take away from
any of those comments that I 'hate' someone who disagrees with me - on this
subject or any other.

Please show me where my comments were hateful. I think I have proven over
the years that I am more than willing to admit when I have been wrong or
crossed a line. If I crossed a line into hateful speech, please show me
where.

I admit that, over the years (and even very recently), I have often taken
the low road and resorted to name calling and insults - to you, and a lot
of others. I am trying to be a better person. Trying to understand not only
an opposing position, but the rationale that brought someone to that
position. So, if I have been 'hateful' please show where.

-- 
Scott Stroz
---------------
You can make things happen, you can watch things happen or you can wonder
what the f*&k happened. - Cpt. Phil Harris

http://xkcd.com/386/


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