On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote:


> > > Civil Union doesn't mean all that? Again, check the dictionaries.
>
> No. It doesn't. Why are you so against gay people using the word marriage?
>
>
Yes it does. Why are you insisting they do? If you want to play the
separate but equal route, why not redefine hetro-sexual/homo-sexual since
they are separate but equal. If you don't want any identifiers don't use
the term gay or even same-sex marriage.  I'm not sure why your hung up on
defining marriage as between a man and a woman. If you think using a term
that identifies a person as gay is offensive then that is the issue you
need to address. Why are you ashamed of them, why do they have to hide? Or,
do you just think if other peopel know they're gay they will hate?



> I don't detest people that don't agree with me (some projection there,
> maybe?) . I never said I 'learned', I said I changed my views. Very
> important distinction.
>
>
Not really, it's just choosing words carefully so you can backtrack if
needed.


> > That's like saying instead of giving black equal rights we should just
> call
> > them white. That's not a solution, the real solution is to make them
> equal,
> > not redefine a word.
> >
>
> No. Your 'solution ' of 'marriage' for heterosexuals and  'civil unions'
> for homosexuals is akin to schools for whites and schools for blacks. mine
> is putting all races into one school. See the difference?
>
> No. One is physical and the other is verbal. My example fit much better.



> Honestly, when it comes to the government's meaning of 'marriage' - which
> again is essentially a civil contract - I don't care what it is called, but
> it should be the same name, and same benefits,  for heterosexual and
> homosexual couples. Leave marriage to the churches, synagogues, mosques,
> ect.
>
>
You do care what they call it. You seem to only be able to except marriage.
I say we call it garriage


> >
> > > > You keep dodging the question. How is this NOT discrimination?
> > >
> >
> But you have not answered the question. Not even close. You refuse to
> answer, but won't speculate as to why you refuse to answer as that would be
> unfair to you.
>
>
It's like saying the term white is discriminating. It has no logic.


> You seem to use the word 'hate' pretty freely - and with increasing
> frequency lately. I have tried to be very careful in how I worded my
> responses and I don't really think a reasonable person would take away from
> any of those comments that I 'hate' someone who disagrees with me - on this
> subject or any other.
>
>
You're very angry lately whenever you see a conservative or non-progressive
comment. It has an effect after awhile.


> Please show me where my comments were hateful. I think I have proven over
> the years that I am more than willing to admit when I have been wrong or
> crossed a line. If I crossed a line into hateful speech, please show me
> where.
>
> I admit that, over the years (and even very recently), I have often taken
> the low road and resorted to name calling and insults - to you, and a lot
> of others. I am trying to be a better person. Trying to understand not only
> an opposing position, but the rationale that brought someone to that
> position. So, if I have been 'hateful' please show where.
>
>
As I often say, **be tolerant of different opinions. It's a simple request.

.


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