I guess my point should have been:

If you don't follow the guidelines for something, it is not really fair to
complain about it when things go wrong.

There are parts of 'agile' I loathe. Other parts I like - scrum being one
of them, I find it keeps me focused more on what needs to be done.

But I won't fault 'agile' if we only follow some of the guidelines and
things go south.


On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 11:16 AM, GMoney <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> > Having them 'attend' the scrum is fine.
> >
> > Having them disrupt the scrum with stuff that is 'outside of scope' for
> > scrum is not.
> >
> > As contractors, we should not simply give the client what they ask for
> > (often times, what they as for is not what they want). We should guide
> the
> > client to what is best for the project. This includes letting them know
> > that for an 'agile' process, it is not best for the project if they
> attend
> > the meeting and take things off the rails.
> >
>
> Meh....i don't see the point in trying to conform a project to a
> methodology, as opposed to the other way around.
>
> My project is a high visibility, highly critical, rapidly changing project.
> The needs and requirements change almost daily. As such, client input can
> be necessary daily. So they asked to use our scrums for that.
>
> Seems stupid for me to say "No, Agile doesn't work that way...". Seems more
> reasonable to say "Our project is pretty unique, let's adapt Agile to work
> the way we need it."
>
> So that's how we scrum, and we make it work.
>
>
> 

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